Progressive leadership in a nutshell

[Trexller]

@most of you

You think too small.

If you're gonna understand and address these issues you have to stop thinking like yourself - the individual

In order to understand the fundamental and existential requirements for mass human civilization, you must think like exactly that, on terms of all humans, not the few, the tribe, or the town.

Human civilization was born near fresh water. Every city sits on 1+ rivers. Due to this, infrastructure was built near fresh water.

Yes, people can most certainly survive in small groups in hostile climates.

Now pick up new york city, right now, and drop it in the sahara. It'll be mad max tomorrow.

What you suggest is an untenable solution to a very real existential problem. There isn't room for all of us.

And if you really think there is room for infinite humans on earth, when can I move into your house and use your resources?

[Cassawary]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if you really think there is room for infinite humans on earth, when can I move into your house and use your resources?

I dislike this type of tomfoolery.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Cassawary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dislike this type of tomfoolery.

Its a valid question, if there is more than enough to go around, why won't you give me some of what you got?

I don't need to pay this mortgage when you already have a house, right?

[Cassawary]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its a valid question, if there is more than enough to go around, why won't you give me some of what you got?

I don't need to pay this mortgage when you already have a house, right?

It's childish nonsense only serving as to interrupt.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Cassawary [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's childish nonsense only serving as to interrupt.

So posing a question based on a hypothetical microcosm of you and I is a childish interruption?

If you can't give a straight answer, then its obviously "HELL NO"

You can't say the two are unrelated, your home is your home, mine is mine. I could not build my home where yours is, because yours is already there.

You would not offer your home and resources to me, because they are yours, and I am not endeared as family or close friend.

[HalflingSpergand]

Drop new york city and an infrastructure to support it anywhere and it will be fine.

Regardless the is plenty of land. A population does not need to be on a river. That's just not relevant at all

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by HalflingSpergand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Drop new york city and an infrastructure to support it anywhere and it will be fine.

Regardless the is plenty of land. A population does not need to be on a river. That's just not relevant at all

I mean, it's not necessary, sure. But river access means easier transport of goods, which can impact the health of businesses located there.

Edit: To clarify, I realize that my post isn't directly addressing the actual ability to live in a place. But I am more pointing to that as a factor in why we don't see more of civilization located in these types of areas.

[Byue]

Originally Posted by HalflingSpergand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Drop new york city and an infrastructure to support it anywhere and it will be fine.

Regardless the is plenty of land. A population does not need to be on a river. That's just not relevant at all

Is this why everywhere is not like new-york city?
Why is boise idaho not new-york city?
The infrastructure?

So, was there skyscrapers before there was a cit or were the skyscraper built because of the people in the city?

Like seriously, until very fucking recently, and even now, no, you cannot build a new-york anywhere if you just give it infrastructure.

The proof is logical but because I'm not claiming massive voter fraud without a single shred of evidence, I'll just say that the Chinese do have mega cities that are virtually empty.

Better, bigger, newer infrastructure than new-york.
Still not new-york.

actually pretty fucking empty.

Do you think you're clever, boy?

[Trexller]

fresh water is just where it started, obv

are you gonna build 100+ years of infrastructure in the sahara to support new york city? im not

are you gonna leave the comforts of whatever home you have made? im not

infrastructure didn't just pop into life, it took decades and centuries to evolve.

are you gonna pay for it? no one else is gonna, thats why there is no metropolis in super harsh climates, why no population of consequence lives there.

as time goes on more and more humans will feel entitled to the standard of living that we enjoy, and feel we are entitled to.

tech is likely to solve some of those issues, but there will always be a gigantic $$ sign.

You still think too small.

[HalflingSpergand]

Do u not know about the water underground literally everywhere including barren wastelands? Do you think there is a limited amount of water?