Poll: Reopen Teal (Digital Social Distancing)

[cd288]

Originally Posted by raptorak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeh but who cares about him, what about everyone else who also wants a chance at phat lewts and camps? Just because this one guy wants a manastone doesn't mean I don't want more greater lightstones in NK and that guy over there doesn't want to camp x y or z. What about the majority of people voting who just want less competition in general?

So what you’re saying is that you tried classic and realized you didn’t actually like it? Green is below what most servers were in pop pre-Kunark. It sounds like you don’t actually like classic EQ if you can’t do whatever you want whenever you want, in which case that’s fine and the TLPs are there with instances and/or pick zone mechanics that allow you to reduce how many people may be in the zone you’re in. Things being occupied is simply a fact of life in classic EQ; I highly doubt the staff have any interest in creating another server just because higher level players are whining about having to wait in line for things.

On another note, there are like a million wisp spawns in NK and they’re not campable per the rules (except for a player being allowed to claim only one spawn in an outdoor zone). They wander everywhere. If you’re having a hard time killing wandering mobs in a zone where there are tons of spawns for that mob I’m not really sure what to tell you. That sounds more like a you issue than a population issue as I have never had a problem finding wisp spawns to kill just running around.

[aaezil]

They should never reopen teal just on the premise that OP is a total douche.

[Castle2.0]

Haha, troll gets utterly dominated in an argument, so goes back to sad, tired, specious, utterly flawed "classic is whatever I say it is" and "you can't have standards on a free server" nonsense arguments.

Must suck to be so wrong!

LOL!

Oh Captain, my Gnomish Captain, thank you for saving me the effort of having to type exactly that. Well said.

They should never reopen teal just on the premise that OP is a total douche.

1 elf, 1 vote. Get in line to vote on Greexit. Not looking too bright for 'Remainers'

[Kirdan]

One of the server's biggest trolls calls me a troll for disagreeing with him, sure why not?

As for the argument, this poll does not do what it aims to do. The sample of the population who visits the forums is tiny, self-selecting, and more likely to be upset about something. Not to mention there's zero control for the votes even being from green players vs blue/red/whatever visitors to the forum. I am obviously a 'no' vote, but none of what I just said means that there isn't a majority of players on green who would prefer to split again. This poll does not tell us that though.

I think opening teal in the first place was a terrible mistake. Zones should be full of people and lively. That is very much the classic experience. From what I saw, when the split happened, the people who left for teal did so because they wanted to have some sort of custom blue-like experience where they could camp things easily with little competition and stick to their favorite leveling path in familiar, popular dungeons. I'm sure that doesn't describe everyone who left for teal, but I think it covers a large chunk.

Sorry you don't like green, but this is the classic you signed up for.

[El-Hefe]

Nobody cares about OP, they care about the amazing Teal server and all the positives it would bring to P99.

[phr0stbyt3]

Originally Posted by El-Hefe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody cares about OP, they care about the amazing Teal server and all the positives it would bring to P99.

Such as....?

[Castle2.0]

You can't ignore the silent majority just because they're silent. Take the 2016 US election as a good example of this. Or a bad example because of your personal beliefs about the electoral college. Whatever. Not everyone cares to show their face on the forum. Believe it or not, some people (I'm guessing a large majority) actually do just want to play the game as-is and be left alone. You keep repeating "WE HAVE 600 VOTES!" like you're taking a victory lap. You have 600 total votes, and 450 of them agree with you. You actually do NOT have 600 votes to support your position.

You don't read.

600 votes from a population of 1800 or 3600 is a statistically valid sample was my point. Therefore, the poll is valid. The results so far are, 447 YES, 173 NO.

BTW, your "silent majority" argument assumes this majority exists - your proof is that it happened once elsewhere...

I don't believe your "guess" or not. I just believe the numbers. Re-read the above, if you're still not getting it.

He’s one of the biggest plat/loot farmers on the server.

BIG LOL at this one. How many times you seen me at a cash camp?

Pathetic and laughable. You let your imagination run wild attempting to create some enemy in your mind. Not sure what's up with you.

Manastone was worth it a few times. Did Rubi BP once. That's about it. I dont' farm HGs or other items to sell for plat.

I've never camped Frenzy/Efreeti on Green - I don't own, nor have ever owned/wore on any Teal/Green toon a pair of GEBs or an FBSS. I don't own a Tranix Crown.

I did camp an SMR once and sold it to a guildie when I got better no-drop.

But thanks for making this all about me - but in fact, this just shows it's all about your pathological mental issue.

Feels SO good being SO right and seeing my opposition SO wrong. I'm not even trying to make these people look like fools.

But hey, if you want, just subtract my vote from the total? Will that help your pathology subside?

Key Point: A lot of assumption and guess work from the naysayers. "I believe..." "I guess" "Everyone knows that he is..."

Sorry bros, I'm just a numbers guy, ya know? Just the facts ma'am.

OPEN TEAL.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't read.

600 votes from a population of 1800 or 3600 is a statistically valid sample was my point. Therefore, the poll is valid. The results so far are, 447 YES, 173 NO.

BTW, your "silent majority" argument assumes this majority exists - your proof is that it happened once elsewhere...

I don't believe your "guess" or not. I just believe the numbers. Re-read the above, if you're still not getting it.


BIG LOL at this one. How many times you seen me at a cash camp?

Pathetic and laughable. You let your imagination run wild attempting to create some enemy in your mind. Not sure what's up with you.

Manastone was worth it a few times. Did Rubi BP once. That's about it. I dont' farm HGs or other items to sell for plat.

I've never camped Frenzy/Efreeti on Green - I don't own, nor have ever owned/wore on any Teal/Green toon a pair of GEBs or an FBSS. I don't own a Tranix Crown.

I did camp an SMR once and sold it to a guildie when I got better no-drop.

But thanks for making this all about me - but in fact, this just shows it's all about your pathological mental issue.

Feels SO good being SO right and seeing my opposition SO wrong. I'm not even trying to make these people look like fools.

But hey, if you want, just subtract my vote from the total? Will that help your pathology subside?

Key Point: A lot of assumption and guess work from the naysayers. "I believe..." "I guess" "Everyone knows that he is..."

Sorry bros, I'm just a numbers guy, ya know? Just the facts ma'am.

OPEN TEAL.

Again OP, you’re well known as one of the rudest farmers on the server. And you’d have us believe the reason you want another server is because you’re just altruistic and want other people to enjoy themselves? Lol give me a break. You want two servers to farm on simultaneously so that when they merge you have more plat and more stuff to sell. You’re the guy who was trying to artificially inflate mana stone prices. Maybe I’d change my opinion on a second server if you were at least honest about your selfish motives for wanting it.

[phr0stbyt3]

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't read.

600 votes from a population of 1800 or 3600 is a statistically valid sample was my point. Therefore, the poll is valid. The results so far are, 447 YES, 173 NO.

BTW, your "silent majority" argument assumes this majority exists - your proof is that it happened once elsewhere...

I don't believe your "guess" or not. I just believe the numbers. Re-read the above, if you're still not getting it.

This is starting to get silly. My "proof" is that we only have 600 votes out of the enormous 1500+ peak population we've been seeing.

First off, your signature brags about a 148 hour manastone camp. Did you stay awake that long to obtain it? Don't answer that. I know you didn't. Everyone knows you didn't. No, you didn't specifically break any rules, but everyone resents you for it. I don't see how this little brag is helping your position of opening a new server to take people (players and staff) away from Green so you can rotate the manastone camp again with your buds.

Secondly, your understanding of demographics is not good. There are two demographics at play here: 1) people who play on Green and 2) people who play on green who use the forums. We can assume confidence for the number of people in group 2 because that's the only demographic we -know-, so we could use the survey monkey formula to assume 99% confidence when extrapolating for the entire -forum user base-, but NOT group 1 because those people may never show their faces on these forums. People devote their entire lives to probability and statistics, and the brief little intro to sample sizes on the survey monkey website you linked doesn't even cover the basics.

Can we drop this now?

[magnetaress]

Open move log. Promise the whiners a fresh start.

They log in and wake up on red. GG.