If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by boboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hate religions because it makes life cheap. It makes people care less about ameliorating their condition here for some pie-in-the-sky dreampipe.

but oh my god if you dont believe in climate change you're a hateful idiot who hates everything and i hate you ahhhhhh *watches al gore movie 84 times*

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by boboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cthulu im an atheist, but it doesnt mean im right. Its a belief, just like any other. Saying "because its the only one we get" as if its law is rather presumptuous. I agree its the only life we get, and the videos youve linked about atheism I am in accord with. But im only 99.99% sure that when I die its over. There is absolutely no way for me to be sure until i check out of here. For you to say "because its the only one we get" as if its self-evident truth makes you sound like a dogmatic religious person, which you are railing against.

it's not about being right, it's about the fact that religion is used to pass laws, to sway civil right changes, and over all control Government legislation. I have a problem with religion because it perpetuates ignorance and it insults our intelligence and tries to destroy our need to explain WHY things exist they way they are by simply saying that a GOD did everything.

I would be 100% fine with people believing in God if it try to corrode science with Sunday schools and people using religion to try to say evolution doesn't exist, or that stem cell shouldn't be used because it violates their imaginary friend's law and when corrupt leaders get tax exemptions and profit off the meek because they lead a religion. When things like this occur, it is time to put a stop to religion as a protected entity.

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but oh my god if you dont believe in climate change you're a hateful idiot who hates everything and i hate you ahhhhhh *watches al gore movie 84 times*

where in this thread was climate change, or anything about nature presented? Take your ignorance somewhere else.

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by Slathar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but oh my god if you dont believe in climate change you're a hateful idiot who hates everything and i hate you ahhhhhh *watches al gore movie 84 times*

And by the way, Al Gore is an idiot. He's no better than any other politician or pseudo-activist who tries to use the shock effect to get results.

[Daldolma]

Does it make life cheap? Do you believe your lives have been enriched through atheism? I find it interesting that anyone feels like they are in a position to judge what adds value to a human life. Is reading Aristotle any more "valuable" to a human life than reading the Bible? How, exactly, is the belief that this is your one and only life more valuable than the belief in an eternal soul? Is a three-hour session of Project 1999 more valuable than a three-hour session of Church?

It takes some serious narcissism to believe that you can answer any of those questions.

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does it make life cheap? Do you believe your lives have been enriched through atheism? I find it interesting that anyone feels like they are in a position to judge what adds value to a human life. Is reading Aristotle any more "valuable" to a human life than reading the Bible? How, exactly, is the belief that this is your one and only life more valuable than the belief in an eternal soul? Is a three-hour session of Project 1999 more valuable than a three-hour session of Church?

It takes some serious narcissism to believe that you can answer any of those questions.

Human life should be measured in what you do while you live, and the good you do. Not whether or not you've done ENOUGH to go to a heaven.

[chtulu]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does it make life cheap? Do you believe your lives have been enriched through atheism? I find it interesting that anyone feels like they are in a position to judge what adds value to a human life. Is reading Aristotle any more "valuable" to a human life than reading the Bible? How, exactly, is the belief that this is your one and only life more valuable than the belief in an eternal soul? Is a three-hour session of Project 1999 more valuable than a three-hour session of Church?

It takes some serious narcissism to believe that you can answer any of those questions.

Hence why atheism promotes doing good for goodness sake. Religion tries to sell people on a superficial belief that you'll be rewarded at the end. Hence why Atheists can be deemed more selfless than religious people.

[Alawen Everywhere]

By an odd coincidence, I am currently attempting to struggle through "Ars Rhetorica." I'm pretty impressed by Aristotle.

I've also read the Bible. I'm less impressed with that. It's so butchered from hundreds of years of willful manipulation that it's pretty much gibberish.

At the same time, I'm also impressed by Linus Pauling, who said, "The best way to have a good idea is to have a lot of ideas." Personally, I think everyone should learn everything they can and think and judge for themselves.

My pineapple is pretty good, too.

Also, a giant turtle.

[Daldolma]

Why should human life be measured by what good you do while you live? How is that any less arbitrary than to say life should be measured by God after you die? And there are plenty of atheists that believe life should be measured by the maximization of pleasure and enjoyment, not good. Or the pursuit of truth. Or the pursuit of beauty. There are many, many theories as to how one should value a human life, and absolutely none of them are empirically correct.

But in the case of the atheist, who's measuring, anyway? Post-death is a blank void. To the atheist, life has no "greater meaning" -- it is what it is. Meaning there is no value, except to the person living it. In which case, you choose your own meaning. And if that's the case, if you want to live a life devoted to religion, and that's what makes you happiest and most fulfilled, that's exactly what you should do. Whether or not that religion is valid.

The harsh anti-religion stance doesn't even stand up to atheist logic, which is the irony in the whole matter. Atheists believe there is no meaning and everyone should choose to live life the way they see fit, not the way some religion tells them to. You can live in pursuit of truth, justice, beauty, love, pleasure -- anything but God. Doesn't seem real logical to me. Theoretically speaking, the atheist should be more tolerant of religion than anyone.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

where in this thread was climate change, or anything about nature presented? Take your ignorance somewhere else.

oh no ive been called out on an internet forum guys

lets talk about why climate change isnt real