Current Sky Schedule - Page 25

Nitsude · #1 05-17-2016, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Madruga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Venerate doing on Friday PM or really open? Divinity would like to claim Friday PM.

Venerate does do it on Friday PM, but not every week. That being said, Gogre (raid leader) or Kiix (guild leader) would probably be very open to moving to another PM slot, as Fridays are sort of inconvenient for us.

Madruga · #2 05-22-2016, 12:30 AM

So, talking to Venerate officers we came to a deal to share Friday PMs, 1 week for Venerate, other for Divinity.

This next one ( 27/05 ) will be a Divinity day.

I thank Kiix, Maor and Gogre who gave me the attention in this decision.

So please if possible update Friday PM with Venerate/Divinity.

Thanks.

paroxysmal · #3 05-17-2016, 12:04 AM

Fires of Heaven is still doing sky on monday PM, Europa looking to move to Friday which will open a monday AM slot if it happens.

Europa does sky at 1pm CST for their AM slot, so they would work better with a guild that raids later than we do.

Culkasi · #4 05-22-2016, 05:58 AM

@Qani

Man, stop blastering on about how we don't move etc etc. Its not that easy for us, we've always done it at the same time, and historically it was not an issue. We do Sky 1-2 times a month, and I understand its frustrating for you, but I can't just ask people to start raiding at 1am or before they even get off work because its annoying for you - it was different if we hadn't done it this way/time the past 3-4 years, but fact is, we have.

I have tried to work out different options and I still am, but you can't just expect us to fuck over our members so you get to raid when it suits you. You are just as unwilling to move to a different day as we are (and we've been on Mondays long before FoH was a thing on P99), so don't put it on us.

I am willing to continue working with you, put trying to publicly shame us doesn't work well in that regard.

paroxysmal · #5 05-22-2016, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@Qani

Man, stop blastering on about how we don't move etc etc. Its not that easy for us, we've always done it at the same time, and historically it was not an issue. We do Sky 1-2 times a month, and I understand its frustrating for you, but I can't just ask people to start raiding at 1am or before they even get off work because its annoying for you - it was different if we hadn't done it this way/time the past 3-4 years, but fact is, we have.

I have tried to work out different options and I still am, but you can't just expect us to fuck over our members so you get to raid when it suits you. You are just as unwilling to move to a different day as we are (and we've been on Mondays long before FoH was a thing on P99), so don't put it on us.

I am willing to continue working with you, put trying to publicly shame us doesn't work well in that regard.

Everything I stated is factual. If that is shaming to you I cannot help it. As others have stated the player agreement in sky only works if everyone follows it.

The simple fact is your guild is signed up for an AM slot on Monday. And as Kileras put it it sounds like the mobs should be repopped by 7pm CST (GMT -6), and with your current start time they don't repop until 9:30pm CST (GMT -6), for common courtesy for the guild sharing the day with your guild.

How would you feel if the Sunday pm guild caused 3-4 hour delay for you starting on Monday afternoon?

Culkasi · #6 05-22-2016, 07:06 AM

I don't feel shamed, I am just surprised you think that it will make me more inclined to find a solution

paroxysmal · #7 05-22-2016, 07:14 AM

The only thing you have done to "try to work with" us has been to maybe send a pm on the forums here when you remember giving me advanced notice that you have utilized our pm block for your raid.

Culkasi · #8 05-22-2016, 07:42 AM

Only thing either guild have now done to "work together" has been asking other guild to move their weekly raids to other day or time (both have declined that) and asking other guilds to raid in middle of the night for them or during work hours (both have declined that too).

I don't think you can put all that on Europa alone.

paroxysmal · #9 05-22-2016, 07:55 AM

I have offered to let your guild members needing items from sky to join our raids. I even offered to start our raid a few hours earlier to make less of an inconvenience to your members even though it would create more of a hardship for my members. Additionally, that offer was never reciprocated. So please don't say i havent done anything. We signed up for the PM slot. Is it hard to comprehend that in doing so we might actually want to raid during it?

I have only ever asked for you to raid during your self-assigned timeslot.

raato · #10 05-22-2016, 09:08 AM

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I have offered to let your guild members needing items from sky to join our raids. I even offered to start our raid a few hours earlier to make less of an inconvenience to your members even though it would create more of a hardship for my members. Additionally, that offer was never reciprocated. So please don't say i havent done anything. We signed up for the PM slot. Is it hard to comprehend that in doing so we might actually want to raid during it?

I have only ever asked for you to raid during your self-assigned timeslot.

Still doesn't change the fact that all you or us have done has been asking other guild to move their raid to other day or ask other guild to do their raid in middle of the night / during work hours. And you simply can't put all that on Europa.

We are trying to figure out way to move our raid so it wouldn't cause any troubles for you or any other guild, but its not a fast or easy process for European timezone raiders to fit in the system that was built for American timezone raiders after we have managed with the same system for so long. All you have done is offered our members to join your raid which would cause them to be raiding in middle of the night at workdays. There was plenty of other PM slots available when we first encountered this problem, but you refused to use them even tho you knew our raiding time. We have even skipped alot of our Sky raids past few months we would have otherwise done, so we wouldn't cause any trouble for you.

But regardless WE will continue the talks inside our guild and with other guilds to find out time slot that suits for us and won't harm other guilds sky raiding, just so you can have the time slot you want, because clearly you won't be able to make compromises that are sane for all parties. In meantime, sorry for the trouble we might cause.