Elder Scrolls Online

[Auvdar]

Originally Posted by liveitup1216 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's the shiniest turd we have available, so I'll be stomaching it until something better comes along. Just like always.

It's thinking like this that keeps getting us bad MMO after bad MMO. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lune]

Originally Posted by liveitup1216 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's the shiniest turd we have available, so I'll be stomaching it until something better comes along. Just like always.

Originally Posted by Auvdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's thinking like this that keeps getting us bad MMO after bad MMO. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed, although I'm not sure whether I can attribute this to MMO's actually being bad, or the jaded cynicism of an adult who has been playing MMO's for half his life.

Opiate users 'chase the dragon', trying to replicate their idealized perception of what it first felt like to get high, in spite of diminishing returns and tolerance. All MMO discourse, everywhere, invariably comes across like a bunch of heroin addicts arguing about why nobody can get a good high anymore. It's missing the point.

I'm fairly certain no new MMO, no matter how masterfully designed, is going to blow your socks off. You've lost the ability to have your socks blown off.

When one finally does come along, the mind-blowing is going to manifest itself as "Meh, this game is actually pretty fun".

You never catch the dragon.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed, although I'm not sure whether I can attribute this to MMO's actually being bad, or the jaded cynicism of an adult who has been playing MMO's for half his life.

Opiate users 'chase the dragon', trying to replicate their idealized perception of what it first felt like to get high, in spite of diminishing returns and tolerance. All MMO discourse, everywhere, invariably comes across like a bunch of heroin addicts arguing about why nobody can get a good high anymore. It's missing the point.

I'm fairly certain no new MMO, no matter how masterfully designed, is going to blow your socks off. You've lost the ability to have your socks blown off.

When one finally does come along, the mind-blowing is going to manifest itself as "Meh, this game is actually pretty fun".

You never catch the dragon.

Qft

[Tecmos Deception]

I disagree. Imo a great, new drug will blow your socks off even if you've been using something else a lot and/or for a long time.

But new MMOs aren't great (or maybe even good); they're just new.


Can all of you honestly say that nothing has blown your socks off since your first MMO? EQ was my first, and yeah. OMFG. But WoW blew my socks off too, and I'm nostalgic about early wow (the content more than the mechanics) almost like with classic EQ. Eve blew my socks off too. A few other games were solid "good"s in my book... usually cause they'd have a few great features, but the overall game was mediocre at best (city of heroes, shadowbane are the ones I can think of atm, I didn't play DAOC or early SWG). And then basically everything else was "shitty" because even if there was a great feature or two, or a number of good features, the overall game was terrible (rushed releases and games not delivering on early promises being the biggest issues, probably).

[Lyrith]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree. Imo a great, new drug will blow your socks off even if you've been using something else a lot and/or for a long time.

But new MMOs aren't great (or maybe even good); they're just new.


Can all of you honestly say that nothing has blown your socks off since your first MMO? EQ was my first, and yeah. OMFG. But WoW blew my socks off too, and I'm nostalgic about early wow (the content more than the mechanics) almost like with classic EQ. Eve blew my socks off too. A few other games were solid "good"s in my book... usually cause they'd have a few great features, but the overall game was mediocre at best (city of heroes, shadowbane are the ones I can think of atm, I didn't play DAOC or early SWG). And then basically everything else was "shitty" because even if there was a great feature or two, or a number of good features, the overall game was terrible (rushed releases and games not delivering on early promises being the biggest issues, probably).

I couldn't agree with you more. Vanilla WoW was just amazing, I mean it was the EQ killer pretty much... DAoC and SWG were a ton of fun at the beginning and just like other games after so many patches/upgrades, they just got ruined over time.

I hope one day we see the next big thing that is just amazing, however I feel for me that time is gone. EQ came out when I was a teenager, I relate to it as a kid growing up. Now that I am an adult, I will just never be able to invest the time into a new MMORPG like before I had a Wife/Kid. So I will never be able to make that strong of a connection to a game again.

[Juhstin]

The only thing I like about new MMO's is the thought of starting fresh and even with everyone.

[Tecmos Deception]

New MMOs have "even" starts? Last I checked they all have early starts or beta characters rolling over into launch or other tangible benefits for people who were willing to gamble on a kickstarter or buy a pre-order or pay for cash shop items. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Juhstin]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

New MMOs have "even" starts? Last I checked they all have early starts or beta characters rolling over into launch or other tangible benefits for people who were willing to gamble on a kickstarter or buy a pre-order or pay for cash shop items. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But those starts aren't as bad as say Me coming into Red99 and being the only lowbie leveling up to 60 and not seeing anyone for zone upon zone of leveling and then dealing with the economy effects of those who benefited from things fixed in later patches and etc.

[burkemi5]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd7kachAfSc

Good video highlighting the recent changes to combat and the first hour of gameplay. If you like ESO it's worth the 10 minutes.

Here's a few highlights pulled from the private test server patch notes specific to what I mentioned:

-Now after the tutorial completion, new characters will go directly to first alliance city where you will then have the choice to go to the starting islands.
-Player to NPC collision.
-Updated camera shakes for all light and heavy attack impacts or projectile launches. They should generally be slightly larger than before.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by burkemi5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd7kachAfSc

Good video highlighting the recent changes to combat and the first hour of gameplay. If you like ESO it's worth the 10 minutes.

Here's a few highlights pulled from the private test server patch notes specific to what I mentioned:

-Now after the tutorial completion, new characters will go directly to first alliance city where you will then have the choice to go to the starting islands.
-Player to NPC collision.
-Updated camera shakes for all light and heavy attack impacts or projectile launches. They should generally be slightly larger than before.

Good changes across the board...very cool. Thanks for the share sir