Congratulations Lord Bob

[triad]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sticking up for another guild that got assfucked by your pals in Lord Bob on a serverwide agreement is not bitching. It's doing the right thing so we can maintain the one damn thing the server raid scene agrees on.

hey man im all for protecting the little guy but its kinda like crying wolf .. you complaine about the minor shit and try and use BS leverage in raid agreements and(given mostly chest) other stupid shit .. when a real issue shows up ll i see is "bitch bitch bitch "

[Triangle]

Alright so I see it like this. We have tried to incorporate dolji yet thy are not interested. Instead they want to steal slots from other guilds and gms are on with that.

Logic says the way to handle this is to stomp these fucks into the ground until they play nice or leave

[Nikon]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is exactly why hardly anyone who quit during the debacle started over a year ago were bothered to come back. Rogean even went as far as to change the system from a tier 1 tier 2 system to what they have now and yet this bullshit is still considered fine. What's the point of even trying any more?

My understanding was that the underlying idea behind the raid changes was to open up more raid mobs to more guilds and not necessarily stop competition, leap frogging, etc...While there is some strife in the classes, has this goal ultimately not been achieved? That being said I can see why the GMs would take the position they are seeing now as they have always seemed to encourage competition. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Miser]

Nikon, you're 100% correct and it's the people that don't understand what you're saying that are causing the problems.

[triad]

im there should be a FFA element involved in the lower tier because the whole idea was to encourage competition then thats the best way.. hell id join a low tier on an alt and lever loot an item just to be apart of it b/c thats when its the most exciting when you arnt sure even in the best situation if you can do it and on top of that having the race factor... thats what i think of when i think of old EQ raidng

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Nikon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My understanding was that the underlying idea behind the raid changes was to open up more raid mobs to more guilds and not necessarily stop competition, leap frogging, etc...While there is some strife in the classes, has this goal ultimately not been achieved? That being said I can see why the GMs would take the position they are seeing now as they have always seemed to encourage competition. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by Miser [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nikon, you're 100% correct and it's the people that don't understand what you're saying that are causing the problems.

Incorrect. Class R is player enforced rotations whether lord Bob likes it or not. They want to try to not have it the way every single other guild had it before they came along, they can suffer the consequences. Lord Bob are the aggressors plain and simple. Don't condemn those who are defending the new (and immensely popular) way of things.

[Daldolma]

Why are some of you talking about "competing"? They're not "competing". They looked at the Sky rotation, picked the weakest possible guild's sky night, then snaked in and keyed up while the other guild was clearing Isle 1 for keys.

What exactly is the competition there? Buying a key and clicking the portal?

[Burrito]

At this point- can we just make a new RNF to talk about the idea of a new guild wanting to join R, and keep this thread based on the Dolj Sky incident.

[letsallkillandy]

Originally Posted by Wrench [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

haha, this thread is awesome

derubaby is trollin you all and you dont even get it

keep it goin for another 20 pages man

I do and its hilarious. I love this thread.

[chief]

Give the casual guilds some pixels and they become a bunch of pixel addicts. Welcome to the good life bros