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Old 09-25-2013, 07:41 PM
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:05 PM
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Medicine getting pretty damn close.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:06 PM
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And the only things that define male and female are physicality and gender roll in society. In fact the actual physical characteristics matter far less than psychological characteristics.

One can be 50/50 or 70/30 or 30/70 or any variation there of if they cant physically be a women, does not mean they still cant appear as such and live out a healthy life in a female gender roll. Should they choose.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:07 PM
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I don't see why someones mental health needs to be attached to that unless all woman are mentally insane?
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:23 PM
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I don't see why someones mental health needs to be attached to that unless all woman are mentally insane?
Gender roles aren't the identifier of what makes a female a female. Are you serious? A lesbian " bull dyke" that dresses like , has the mannerisms of, and generally behaves within the bounds of the typical "male "gender role is still a woman biologically .

You can argue this all day. What makes a woman a woman and a man a man is chromosomal. No way around it. You can be a transvestite. You can have all your physical attributes changed to a woman but if your chromosomes are such that you were born a man , you will always biologically be a man.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:37 PM
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Gender roles aren't the identifier of what makes a female a female. Are you serious? A lesbian " bull dyke" that dresses like , has the mannerisms of, and generally behaves within the bounds of the typical "male "gender role is still a woman biologically .

You can argue this all day. What makes a woman a woman and a man a man is chromosomal. No way around it. You can be a transvestite. You can have all your physical attributes changed to a woman but if your chromosomes are such that you were born a man , you will always biologically be a man.
This was my point. I'm not saying what people do with their bodies is wrong but don't paint an orange red and try to sell me an apple.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:41 PM
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This was my point. I'm not saying what people do with their bodies is wrong but don't paint an orange red and try to sell me an apple.
No one is trying to sell you anything. I have never met a trans person that did not advertise they were such. I'm sure that amoral people out their don't say ... hey i'm a guy, but call me a girl, cause i like it.

But thats a poor poor reason to stereotype them all. Everyone knows I'm a dood in game. I never sell myself as a female. I doubt Katrik goes around selling herself as a female trying to snag doods.

And if someone does that. Whats the big deal about walking away? How hard is it to find out on the 1st date? This is not some massive problem that cant be overcome without a little bit of common courtesy on both sides.
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Old 09-25-2013, 06:24 PM
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No one is trying to sell you anything. I have never met a trans person that did not advertise they were such. I'm sure that amoral people out their don't say ... hey i'm a guy, but call me a girl, cause i like it.

But thats a poor poor reason to stereotype them all. Everyone knows I'm a dood in game. I never sell myself as a female. I doubt Katrik goes around selling herself as a female trying to snag doods.

And if someone does that. Whats the big deal about walking away? How hard is it to find out on the 1st date? This is not some massive problem that cant be overcome without a little bit of common courtesy on both sides.
Don't take my apple/orange example literally. I'm just saying transgenders will never be the opposite sex they are trying to be. It's a stance of biology not of bigotry that everyone would love to lump me into.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:34 PM
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You do realize there are chromosomal and genetic anomolies and that there is nothing wrong with a person who is anatomically (or mostly anatomically) male. Being "female in society" no more than there is wrong with someone being a bulldyke.

Starbuck from BSG the ultimate stereotype of that. Not "insane". as much as people wan't to make the ideal of mental health some perfectly stable equilibrium esque zombie.

Let me let you in on a little clue. So if a persons body produces more cortisol during puberty and their estrogen levels are higher and they get boobs and mammaries, yet they have a male anatomy. Does that make them insane?

No.

It means your black and white world view is error prone.

If someone wants to wear a dress and heals and have nice hair, do they HAVE to be a female anatomically to want that? Since we have just established the dissociation of gender from mentality.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:35 PM
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I suppose you think anyone who wears a kilt or robe is a fag too.
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