Half of FE's monks are suspended, Loses Trak when they have to compete

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look argue back and forth all you want.

This is probably the worst "raiding" I've ever seen, from both sides.

People log on and expect to have a race for numbers, perhaps an FTE stall at most. People are not logging on expecting Trak AEing them on the ledge. There may have been situational errors on the part of FE, but the worst 'raiding' aspect of it clearly falls onto the group who decides to engage Trak and somehow fails to engage him...

When this happened to FE on the Trak after the increased agro range patch, FE did not need to be told that they had a bad engage; we admitted that our engage was wrong. TMO seems not able to accept the fact that they fucked up, instead comically trying to blame a sole wizard for disrupting their entire Trak engage and not their own inability or intentions.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People log on and expect to have a race for numbers, perhaps an FTE stall at most. People are not logging on expecting Trak AEing them on the ledge. There may have been situational errors on the part of FE, but the worst 'raiding' aspect of it clearly falls onto the group who decides to engage Trak and somehow fails to engage him...

When this happened to FE on the Trak after the increased agro range patch, FE did not need to be told that they had a bad engage; we admitted that our engage was wrong. TMO seems not able to accept the fact that they fucked up, instead comically trying to blame a sole wizard for disrupting their entire Trak engage and not their own inability or intentions.

I can't tell by any of these fraps who has aggro other than Heli (guessing he is the wizard).

At no time does trakanon appear to be dumped on anyone (the sign of being trained) nor does he appear to be intentionally dragged on top of your raid force (looks like he is just roaming around trying to get to a target or targets). This doesn't look like a train an any form to me.

Both fraps look like huge fuck ups to me, which is the reason for "raiding".

FYI, I remember being in TMO and logging into a Trak AEing us at that exact spot, we logged out (called over vent immediately). So it really boggles my mind as to why an entire raid force just stands and dies to AEs ( I think I only seen option in your guild chat calling for a camp out ).

Could there have been TMO on Trak aggro running him around down there, definitely possible. Do we see any of them on these fraps? nope. If you can point it out, I'll stfu, but you have to see how this looks and how you're painting it towards others.

My standpoint is: This isn't a train, it's a clusterfuck of retarded proportions and both parties are completely responsible.

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People log on and expect to have a race for numbers, perhaps an FTE stall at most. People are not logging on expecting Trak AEing them on the ledge. There may have been situational errors on the part of FE, but the worst 'raiding' aspect of it clearly falls onto the group who decides to engage Trak and somehow fails to engage him...

When this happened to FE on the Trak after the increased agro range patch, FE did not need to be told that they had a bad engage; we admitted that our engage was wrong. TMO seems not able to accept the fact that they fucked up, instead comically trying to blame a sole wizard for disrupting their entire Trak engage and not their own inability or intentions.

Hey sloan, you are posting a lot of bullshit for the guild leader of a guild that wiped on a clean attempt with 41 people after all these fraps occured. Why doesn't someone post that in all your links? QQ more.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey sloan, you are posting a lot of bullshit for the guild leader of a guild that wiped on a clean attempt with 41 people after all these fraps occured. Why doesn't someone post that in all your links? QQ more.

Selective posting!

[baramur]

I will agree both parties tucked up. But you have to admit if tmo had jot engaged then there would be no issue. Did they intentionally move trak so it would agri or ae Fe, no I don't think they did. The problem isnt intention, its reality. Tmo engage early to kill, stall for more numbers, whatever, its a good call to engage quick, but engage goes bad, trak leaves lairz Fe gets caught in it. Simple as that. All the other shit following that was idiocracy on both guilds to an extent and raiding on p99 its worst. Pathetic guilds can not work together and compromise with each other instead if having a shit show, petition, gm event at every raid. At some point when does it become more logical to share pussy instead of everyone trying to insert dicks into same one.

[baramur]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Selective posting!

Ya we rushed and wiped 41 people maybe 35 at trak and some just rezzedz it happens. Curious though is would tmo lost another trak, just like last trak had they not engaged and trained. Is rather wipe on qn honest attekpt then train a guild on a dishonest one. But its ok train was prolly caused by an alt.

[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by Eccezan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey sloan, you are posting a lot of bullshit for the guild leader of a guild that wiped on a clean attempt with 41 people after all these fraps occured. Why doesn't someone post that in all your links? QQ more.

Hey my fat late 40s lonely mexican.

GG disabling the link =)

[Godefroi]

So this trakanon was a mess and you managed to get him ? Gratz, thats awesome.

Congratz on banking tooth I guess.

As usual we will get next one.

May the power of the EQ dork necklace be with you

[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey my fat late 40s lonely mexican.

GG disabling the link =)

Haha, late 40's lonely mexican?! awesome! Hey its my unemployed cheese eating frog! How much more on your epic Visceral? I know IRL pics aren't allowed, but you'll probably appreciate this one.

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[Eccezan]

Originally Posted by Godefroi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So this trakanon was a mess and you managed to get him ? Gratz, thats awesome.

Congratz on banking tooth I guess.

As usual we will get next one.

May the power of the EQ dork necklace be with you

Hey frog boy, Good luck on getting your epic before you quit out of desparation and loss (again).