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Old 07-24-2023, 02:20 PM
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40 years of ocean warming data
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:22 PM
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No, see, the limitless arrogance of the online rightoid means that they know more about oceanography than oceanographers. Especially when their conclusions disagree with their personal observations at Wal-Mart
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:27 PM
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:31 PM
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Those are just individuals being sleazy, everything right and left is full of them

Refute the science or you're just whining
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:38 PM
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:43 PM
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40 years of ocean warming data
Why does the scale start at 1981? The Earth is 5000 years old.
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:44 PM
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Group of people notorious for sticking their heads in the sand and ignoring the reality around them (Evangelicals and their MAGA apparatchiks) deny the climate science consensus, more at 11. These people only started coming around on fucking evolution within the last ten years.

Oil companies have got you right where they want you.

"Hmm the same science that unraveled quantum mechanics to make the computer I'm clickity clacking on right now says the empirically observable tripling of CO2 PPM (among other gasses and particulates) in the atmosphere is having a warming effect, but no, the thousands of hard science PhD's are wrong, facebook is right".
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:51 PM
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Here you go, rightoids, since you like Youtube so much but hate science from scientists, try the relevant XKCD. Webcomics are at least equal in validity to Youtube links.

https://xkcd.com/1732/
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Old 07-24-2023, 02:53 PM
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https://co2coalition.org/publication...-of-directors/

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Nobel Laureate John Clauser Elected to CO2 Coalition Board of Directors

Dr. Clauser has criticized the awarding of the 2021 Nobel Prize for work in the development of computer models predicting global warming and told President Biden that he disagreed with his climate policies. Dr. Clauser has developed a climate model that adds a new significant dominant process to existing models. The process involves the visible light reflected by cumulus clouds that cover, on average, half of the Earth. Existing models greatly underestimate this cloud feedback, which provides a very powerful, dominant thermostatic control of the EarthÂ’s temperature.

As viewed in visible light from space by the Sun, bright white clouds variably cover from one-third to two-thirds of the EarthÂ’s surface. These clouds, in turn, reflect about 90% of the sunlight incident on them back out into space. Sunlight that reaches the EarthÂ’s surface in the cloudless area, two-thirds of which is covered by oceans, is absorbed and evaporates seawater, in turn, producing cumulus clouds. It produces clouds at an increasingly abundant rate when the cloud-cover fraction is too small and the temperature is too high and vice versa when the fraction is too large. The resulting cloud-cover-fractionÂ’s feedback-controlled variability then provides a very powerful input-power thermostat that stabilizes the Earth-surfaceÂ’s heat input and its temperature. Changes in the radiative heat transfer rate (known as radiative forcing) associated with changes in atmospheric carbon dioxide is nearly two orders of magnitude smaller than the effective stabilization of the input-power provided by the cloud-based thermostat. The role of carbon dioxide may thus be considered negligible by comparison. It should be noted that reports of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and National Academy of Sciences repeatedly concede that the effects of clouds do indeed represent the greatest uncertainty in their climate predictions. But these organizations have made little progress in dealing with these deficiencies.

According to Dr. Clauser, “The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people. Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide variety of other unrelated ills. It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists. In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis. There is, however, a very real problem with providing a decent standard of living to the world’s large population and an associated energy crisis. The latter is being unnecessarily exacerbated by what, in my opinion, is incorrect climate science.”
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Old 07-24-2023, 03:07 PM
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Good try, Elizondo, I'm proud of you. Now Google the CO2 Coalition. Paid for by the Koch brothers and a series of oil executives, explicitly for the purpose of disinformation.

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Those are some of the claims promoted by the CO2 Coalition, a nonprofit founded in 2015 by the White House official who’s overseeing the administration’s "adversarial" review of climate science. The group’s assertions are disputed by a vast majority of climate researchers. But in the eyes of CO2 Coalition members, it’s the world’s leading scientists who are wrong.

The CO2 Coalition, established by William Happer, a senior director with the White House National Security Council, has received more than $1 million from energy executives and conservative foundations that fight regulations since it was founded four years ago. The group is stacked with researchers who cast doubt on climate science. Other members have spent years fighting regulations that would reduce fossil fuel consumption.
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