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Nerosys · #**231** 11-13-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prove it ! Literally prove it.

Okhow about Trakanon while we were in BDA you had one FD monk under trak because you guys had wiped and were not about to repull... you guys did 0 damage and we were told should have let the mob reset.

Its easy to say there is no favoritism when you guys are the ones getting favored. If they are going to change the rules it should be done in advance. and there is a little difference between grabbing FTE.. and running VS around for 5 mins FD flopping as was seen in the video.

Alarti0001 · #**232** 11-13-2012, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerosys [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okhow about Trakanon while we were in BDA you had one FD monk under trak because you guys had wiped and were not about to repull... you guys did 0 damage and we were told should have let the mob reset.

Its easy to say there is no favoritism when you guys are the ones getting favored. If they are going to change the rules it should be done in advance. and there is a little difference between grabbing FTE.. and running VS around for 5 mins FD flopping as was seen in the video.

No you are confused... I said prove it.

Alarti0001 · #**233** 11-13-2012, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha I agree, the timing was about as perfect as it gets, even if it's a worn out joke.
I think I'm going to have to start calling him "punching bag", the poor guy takes a beating everyday and just keeps on ticking. Lol

Ya really, your momma jokes are severe beatings to me lol.
Such a fool.

Jacquouille · #**234** 11-13-2012, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Susano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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This guy is famous.

Alarti isn't and has no life.

Tsk tsk post accurate images plz~

hatelore · #**235** 11-13-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya really, your momma jokes are severe beatings to me lol.
Such a fool.

I never made your-mamma jokes about you :/

radditsu · #**236** 11-13-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacquouille [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy is famous.

Alarti isn't and has no life.

Tsk tsk post accurate images plz~

This guy helped indiana jones out. Also, was a guy in the sliders show. Do not sully him.

Plus isn't he dead? Alarti isnt dead.

radditsu · #**237** 11-13-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No notches have been kicked up.

Carry on.

Lies,

If you kicked it up a month ago like you are now, I am almost positive there wouldn't even be a guild named after breaking and entering and taking what we want.

Plus making bigazz a raid leader? Really?

Frieza_Prexus · #**238** 11-13-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is simply wrong. FTE is defined as first on the aggro list of the mob given that the mob is killed without resetting. That's it.

I'm not so sure. Looking at the posted rules here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=14667

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Originally Posted by Rogean

The rules of engagement for raid bosses on Project 1999 are First to Engage (FTE) in any situation that is not covered below.

FAQ

Q: What classifies a mob as "Engaged"?
A: A mob is classified as engaged as long as it has aggro on at least one player.

It doesn't talk about the Aggro Logs. It talks simply about the first group to "engage" a mob. Perhaps, it is allowable that a distinction exists that FTE as a term is actually more inclusive than just what the logs show.

We need to remember that the logs exist to serve the GMs and the players. Not the other way around. Perhaps the mechanics of CT are such that it is more prudent to apply an intent based standard (which group "engaged" the mob first, in good faith) as opposed to simply checking the logs.

Using this broader definition, TMO indisputably engaged first, but the logs do not indicate that. This creates a situation where a group must technically (per the logs) engage a mob TWICE to kill it. This seems a bit excessive. Perhaps, the rules as they currently are already reflect this by imposing a standard that looks not only to the logs, but also to situational facts.

Even if this above is not true, GMs are allowed to make interpretations and rulings giving P99 a form of common law. Essentially, this new standard of parsing the situation (as opposed to simply checking the logs) is now a valid rule until overturned.

Yes, it's always best to spell things out beforehand, but I believe that it is undeniable that GMs can, and have, altered the written rules via ruling and arbitration. Sometimes an absurd result happens when you have a rote application of the written rules, and that's why the GM's are there. To preserve the spirit and intent of the rules upholding the notion of fairness and equity as they see it.

Raavak · #**239** 11-13-2012, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy helped indiana jones out. Also, was a guy in the sliders show. Do not sully him.

Plus isn't he dead? Alarti isnt dead.

Jesus H Christ, it's Gimli, Son of Gloin.

radditsu · #**240** 11-13-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jesus H Christ, it's Gimli, Son of Gloin.

Holy shit he was.