Americans and Guns (post pics of your armory !)

[Happyfeet]

Blackwater Tactical edition, sooooo nasty~
And no longer available.

[Stalahoy]

Just a little Ruger 22 rifle. Keep hollow points in it so if i end up having to use it in the house, wont kill the neighbors. Fucking sick 30-06 goof.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy Christ how could you possibly miss the point so horribly.

I don't think carrying a gun makes you more likely to be shot. I think a bunch of retarded hillbillies carrying guns makes you more likely to be shot. I don't think everyone carrying a gun is an idiot. I think about 60% of the general population are idiots, and with 300,000,000 American citizens -- 50% of which own a firearm -- that means a lot of fucking morons with guns. Don't fret. There are a lot of fucking morons without guns, too. Those ones are less likely to shoot me.

Also, what makes you think I choose not to carry? Because I acknowledge that owning a gun likely wouldn't mean dick if some psycho decided to burst into a movie, toss tear gas, and start shooting people with an AR-15? Because I'm not pro-gun? Neither of those things mean I don't own a gun and know how to use it. You are clearly pro-gun. Do you typically have a loaded firearm on your person when you go to the movies? How about at work? Do you typically have one on you when you go into a coffee shop? If the answer is no, then you'd be as fucked as everyone else in the past 3 spree shootings in the US.

In America, it makes sense to own a gun for personal protection. But it's not going to save you in the majority of random shootings. And if I had to give up my gun to get guns out of the hands of a few million irresponsible dimwits and/or lunatics likely to shoot someone? That's a great trade, as far as I'm concerned.

If that is not what you meant, then perhaps you should try to convey that information in a way that it does not state what you do not mean.

I also carry every where at all times. I choose not to visit places where I can't carry and the only places I visit that I don't carry are places that it isn't required (military bases, etc.)

You giving up your gun/s will never get the guns out of hands of other people. If you think this is even possible, you're delusional.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Alawen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you have any point at all or do you just enjoy bickering mindlessly?

My point is/was that your point was useless. However, some people will never admit that they were mistaken or not as correct as they thought previously.

[Happyfeet]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that is not what you meant, then perhaps you should try to convey that information in a way that it does not state what you do not mean.

I also carry every where at all times. I choose not to visit places where I can't carry and the only places I visit that I don't carry are places that it isn't required (military bases, etc.)

You giving up your gun/s will never get the guns out of hands of other people. If you think this is even possible, you're delusional.

Stealin wins this round by a landslide with his secret weapon, logic.

[Harmonium]

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[Happyfeet]

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[Alawen]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point is/was that your point was useless. However, some people will never admit that they were mistaken or not as correct as they thought previously.

My point was extremely straightforward. All evidence suggests that the presence of more guns results in more gun violence. The theory forwarded in this thread is that the solution to situations like the Aurora shooting is the presence of more guns. That theory has no evidence to support it whatsoever.

Because you claim not to enter any environment without your gun, you would not have been in the theater to prevent the Aurora shooting. In reality, you're making all of this up and you would have cowered between rows of seats when bullets started flying in the dark like any sane person.

None of this will stop you from continue your right-fighting based on nothing but supposition and rhetoric. You're trying to play gun-toting badass on the internet. I, for one, am not impressed. I doubt anyone else is either.

I'm Chuck Norris on the internet. Also, Hitler.

[Ephirith]

Second Amendment was devised when "arms" meant fucking muskets. You couldn't take a musket and blow someone's head off from half a mile away. You couldn't spray bullets into a room full of people with a musket. Why aren't you fucking gun nuts complaining that the government won't let you carry around sticks of dynamite? I deserve the right to detonate myself and turn everybody within 50 feet into a fine red mist, the Constitution says so. How else am I supposed to defend myself?

Using your logic we should completely cease going through the trouble to prevent nuclear proliferation. Every country has the right to stockpile a bunch of nukes to defend itself. Clearly the bad countries are going to be able to get nukes anyway, right? So we might as well go the opposite direction and make sure EVERYONE has nukes so that if the bad people do show up with nukes, we can just nuke the fuck out of them! Yes, I want to live in that world.

I am 100% in favor of a world where everyone is carrying a loaded gun. Irresponsible, irrational, hotheaded, human beings, we should all be armed. That way every time there is a fight or a scuffle, or a riot, somebody is getting shot!

Let's see what am I missing?:
-Jews did 9/11
-Ron Paul for President
-Ayn Rand was totally right about everything
-Education is for liberal sheep
-My manager is a total dick

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that is not what you meant, then perhaps you should try to convey that information in a way that it does not state what you do not mean.

I also carry every where at all times. I choose not to visit places where I can't carry and the only places I visit that I don't carry are places that it isn't required (military bases, etc.)

You giving up your gun/s will never get the guns out of hands of other people. If you think this is even possible, you're delusional.

I didn't state anything I didn't mean, nor did I imply what you inferred. 9/10 dentists agree, you suck at reading.

You also don't carry 'everywhere at all times'. You can't carry on planes, you can't carry at school, and I'd assume you didn't reject flight or education out of sheer paranoia. But for the sake of discussion, I'll assume you actually carry guns everywhere it's legal. You'd still be fucked in two of the past three spree shootings in the US.

Here's the part you're not grasping: if someone has a gun and wants to shoot you, he's pretty much going to shoot you. The scenarios in which having a gun is going to actually help you defend yourself are exceptions to overwhelming odds against. Even still, 50% of Americans own guns. That means that, out of fear of an exceptionally uncommon circumstance, you've got nearly 100 million armed civilians. That's a lot of idiots with killing machines.

And obviously giving up my guns isn't going to make other people give up their guns. The point is that I'd be in favor of legislation that would result in significantly fewer total gun owners, even if that meant I couldn't own guns myself. Most of these mass murderers aren't people who have had guns lying around for ages. They're people that go nuts and buy stockpiles of weaponry over the course of a few months prior to the shootings. If they couldn't do that, there likely wouldn't be nearly as many mass shootings.