14 Children and Teacher Killed in Texas Elementary School Shooting

[Lune]

As much as I support adding some safeguards to the purchase process for guns, I really don't think this is happening because of access to guns. People in many other countries have lots of access to guns and this still happens far, far more frequently here, there's no comparison.

Life in the US is, for many, just too alienating, lonely, and just plain terrible. Human beings were meant to function in close knit communities and extended family clans. You're supposed to live in a house or compound with multiple generations, surrounded by lots of cousins, nieces & nephews, etc, as well as peers who you interact with on a daily basis.

Many American kids grow up in a single family household, and among those, many with only one parent or shared time between parents. Their only exposure to social interaction outside their immediate family is likely to be at school, but with the advent of the internet and social media, there is less meaningful and personal interaction with peers outside school. My wife is a teacher and she is seeing it. These kids are fucking socially retarded. They aren't even having sex with each other anymore. Many text with each other instead of talking, even if they are in the same room. How many people do you think regularly played team sports or other team activities and ended up being mass murderers? (For reasons other than political or ideological extremism)

In social isolation, mental illnesses are allowed to metastasize and you end up with monsters. Among mass shooters, this is virtually universal. Very, very few of them were socially integrated beyond their immediate family and rarely a handful of friends.

So I'd argue our problem is less associated with guns, and more associated with the American way of life and how much it just flat out fucking sucks for millions.

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I'd argue our problem is less associated with guns, and more associated with the American way of life and how much it just flat out fucking sucks for millions.

o7 Well stated

[loramin]

Some reading/viewing material ... that probably won't change anyone's mind, because you could shoot fifty babies in front of a gun nut and they still would only care about their 2nd amendment rights:

• Global gun violence and laws compared — by the numbers (After a shooting at a Texas school, many Europeans are once again puzzled by the lax gun laws in the US.)
• Ted Cruz Was Left Speechless After A Reporter Asked Him Why Mass Shootings Only Happen In America
• Abbott calls Texas school shooting a mental health issue but cut state spending for it
  (While such programs require more funding, they wouldn't eliminate the need for gun control, experts said.)

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As much as I support adding some safeguards to the purchase process for guns, I really don't think this is happening because of access to guns. People in many other countries have lots of access to guns and this still happens far, far more frequently here, there's no comparison.

Life in the US is, for many, just too alienating, lonely, and just plain terrible. Human beings were meant to function in close knit communities and extended family clans. You're supposed to live in a house or compound with multiple generations, surrounded by lots of cousins, nieces & nephews, etc, as well as peers who you interact with on a daily basis.

Many American kids grow up in a single family household, and among those, many with only one parent or shared time between parents. Their only exposure to social interaction outside their immediate family is likely to be at school, but with the advent of the internet and social media, there is less meaningful and personal interaction with peers outside school. My wife is a teacher and she is seeing it. These kids are fucking socially retarded. They aren't even having sex with each other anymore. Many text with each other instead of talking, even if they are in the same room. How many people do you think regularly played team sports or other team activities and ended up being mass murderers? (For reasons other than political or ideological extremism)

In social isolation, mental illnesses are allowed to metastasize and you end up with monsters. Among mass shooters, this is virtually universal. Very, very few of them were socially integrated beyond their immediate family and rarely a handful of friends.

So I'd argue our problem is less associated with guns, and more associated with the American way of life and how much it just flat out fucking sucks for millions.

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Why be pro Russian? Commies are bad and against freedom

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

o7 Well stated

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some reading/viewing material ... that probably won't change anyone's mind, because you could shoot fifty babies in front of a gun nut and they still would only care about their 2nd amendment rights:

• Global gun violence and laws compared — by the numbers (After a shooting at a Texas school, many Europeans are once again puzzled by the lax gun laws in the US.)
• Ted Cruz Was Left Speechless After A Reporter Asked Him Why Mass Shootings Only Happen In America
• Abbott calls Texas school shooting a mental health issue but cut state spending for it
  (While such programs require more funding, they wouldn't eliminate the need for gun control, experts said.)

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How quick did people start in on guns again? iirc the bodies were still warm.

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The stateless are owed no protection by any Sovereign.

Some shit like that ring your bell?

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I am American. How exactly should this have rung my bell?

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[Skarne]

Yeah Baler sucks. Anyways how's your sex life?

[strongNpretty]

Well, thats what happens when you make humans pay their own hard earned money to have their fucking brain checked out by a professional..

Sorry but, anybody who is financially strapped will not be wasting money on a mental health check up, or paying for weekly therapy or psych appointments.

How it actually works- is you bottle everything up, hoping things improve, and when it finally boils over, shit hits the fan in the blink of an eye, and people hurt themselves or others..

But yeah, go ahead and make us pay for these kinda services.. It's clearly working out well....

[robayon]

That's great Ooloo, way to sidestep your repeated blatant hypocrisy, but that is not my position so I don't know why you mentioned it to me.

I do not support gun grabbing by any government official. The problem is bigger than guns. And no amount of armed guards will prevent all of this for the same reason no amount of gun grabbing will prevent all of this. This isn't a single policy solution because it's obviously a systemic issue.

Feel free to cite statistics for once in your posting career. Matt Walsh videos do not count.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The constitution doesn't give you a right to own a gun: it gives you the right to be part of a well-organized and regulated militia. The Supreme Court made the individual right to own a gun up.

This is correct. Textualism is just judicial activism with extra steps.

[robayon]

Here's a proposal: make it legal for only women to own firearms

Also, if you transition from male to female, you gain the ability to legally own a gun

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's a proposal: make it legal for only women to own firearms

Also, if you transition from male to female, you gain the ability to legally own a gun

I completely agree the problem is bigger than guns. Where the hell were the adults in this kid's life when he was *obviously* acting like a psycho for years before this happened? Probably start there.

And no making guns legally available only to women is *completely* missing the point about equalization of force. A shrimpy dude getting beaten to death by some 300 pound psycho is the exact same principle at play.

Again I'm not going to provide stats that are freely available on google. You have access to google. You've proven too many times that when somebody provides stats you don't like, you say those stats don't count for blah blah blah reason (usually cause you just don't like the source).

I'd like some explanation for why the left has such a hate boner for rifles too? The vast majority of gun homicides are committed with common hand guns. They just get emotionally bamboozled by these insanely horrific events and the fact the shooter had a scary looking rifle.