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Old 10-25-2022, 07:03 PM
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I don't think they want to admit Enchanters have been broken for years and people have been basically playing with a cheat on, that or there is other motive$.
Yeah it’s probably a secret Illuminati con$piracy

If you want I can keep you posted and check back in with you every 6 months or so to remind you how enchanters still aren’t nerfed and how much fun I’ve been having on mine

Would that help?
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Old 10-26-2022, 12:54 AM
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I don't think they want to admit Enchanters have been broken for years and people have been basically playing with a cheat on, that or there is other motive$.
Here, Ima help this guy out by giving him a crash course on how to make new accounts to stalk someone online, because this person probably won’t stop with this one

Tip 1: Don’t make your first post on your burner account be a reminder of something the person you are trying to stalk said ~2 years ago

Tip 2: Don’t be so obvious with your hate crusade, and this will Segway into tip 3

Tip 3: Put a few posts in on your burner account to imply you are a normal person. Yknow, like maybe answering a noob’s question, or maybe posting on a server forum something like “hey does anyone remember my druid named Eagletalon on the old Tunare server?”. Something like that. Thus far every post on your burner account has been how my class happened to ruin your life

That’s it, 3 simple tips to not give yourself away as a weirdo stalker next time
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Old 10-25-2022, 07:14 PM
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If there was any bias on the staff's part, it would not come from money. It would simply be that Nilbog played an Enchanter on live, and (like anyone I know who played EQ back then) he had a bias toward the first class he played.

I'm sure if I was a dev, I'd have a hard time being completely impartial about Shaman, so I could hardly fault him for any such bias ... but, I honestly have seen zero evidence to support such bias.

There's a great quote known as Hanlon's Razor, which states "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". I'd take that a step further and say "never attribute to malice OR stupidity ... that which can be explained by volunteer devs being overworked".
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Old 10-25-2022, 08:44 PM
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If there was any bias on the staff's part, it would not come from money. It would simply be that Nilbog played an Enchanter on live, and (like anyone I know who played EQ back then) he had a bias toward the first class he played.

I'm sure if I was a dev, I'd have a hard time being completely impartial about Shaman, so I could hardly fault him for any such bias ... but, I honestly have seen zero evidence to support such bias.

There's a great quote known as Hanlon's Razor, which states "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". I'd take that a step further and say "never attribute to malice OR stupidity ... that which can be explained by volunteer devs being overworked".
I think it’s probably because he’s only made a post crying about enchanters on 3 different forums here

He still has Technical Discussion, Screenshots, and each server forums to make posts crying about enchanters on

I think once he does that, the devs will for sure nerf them for him. I’d also recommend continuing to lean into the ridiculous accusations, and maybe mention how it’s negatively affected him IRL, because it definitely seems to have. For example, he can bring up how much sleep he’s lost silently hating enchanters while lying in bed
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Old 10-25-2022, 11:20 PM
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If there was any bias on the staff's part, it would not come from money. It would simply be that Nilbog played an Enchanter on live, and (like anyone I know who played EQ back then) he had a bias toward the first class he played.

I'm sure if I was a dev, I'd have a hard time being completely impartial about Shaman, so I could hardly fault him for any such bias ... but, I honestly have seen zero evidence to support such bias.

There's a great quote known as Hanlon's Razor, which states "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". I'd take that a step further and say "never attribute to malice OR stupidity ... that which can be explained by volunteer devs being overworked".
So then the server is not what he advertises, because the game can't be classic if he counsiously made the desicion to buff EnCHEATERS.

This has been told for a long time, a lot of people brought the subject, now people brought hard facts and data and he even fucking posted on one of this posts acknowledging the issue and this was last year, this looks suspicious as fuck, looks like the owner of the server just got caught red handed having a buffed class that he still refuses to change even with hard evidence presented to him.

It's ridiculous that he still is advertising the server as a classic experience when it isn't.
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Old 10-26-2022, 11:28 AM
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So then the server is not what he advertises, because the game can't be classic if he counsiously made the desicion to buff EnCHEATERS.

This has been told for a long time, a lot of people brought the subject, now people brought hard facts and data and he even fucking posted on one of this posts acknowledging the issue and this was last year, this looks suspicious as fuck, looks like the owner of the server just got caught red handed having a buffed class that he still refuses to change even with hard evidence presented to him.

It's ridiculous that he still is advertising the server as a classic experience when it isn't.
First off, this place is already like 95% classic, and it's impossible for it to ever get more than say 98% classic, because at least 2% of the info on how classic worked has been forever lost to time. So we're basically quibbling about something like 3%.

Second, even if they never fixed that 3%, it still would be more classic than any other server in existence, and it would still feel like the live servers to everyone who plays it. Also, while the server doesn't "advertise" anything to anyone (ie. you heard of P99 from somewhere else, not Rogean and Nilbog), but to whatever extent they have they've always been very clear that it's a work in progress, not a finished product.

But finally ... I don't think they're going to leave that 3%. I truly do think Nilbog (even if he did play an Enchanter on live) wants the most classic server possible, not a classic server with customizations for his favorite class. I truly think you're assuming motives on the staff's part ... when the simple reason Enchanters are still (somewhat) unclassic is just that they haven't had the time to fix them yet.
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Old 10-26-2022, 11:44 AM
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First off, this place is already like 95% classic, and it's impossible for it to ever get more than say 98% classic, because at least 2% of the info on how classic worked has been forever lost to time. So we're basically quibbling about something like 3%.

Second, even if they never fixed that 3%, it still would be more classic than any other server in existence, and it would still feel like the live servers to everyone who plays it. Also, while the server doesn't "advertise" anything to anyone (ie. you heard of P99 from somewhere else, not Rogean and Nilbog), but to whatever extent they have they've always been very clear that it's a work in progress, not a finished product.

But finally ... I don't think they're going to leave that 3%. I truly do think Nilbog (even if he did play an Enchanter on live) wants the most classic server possible, not a classic server with customizations for his favorite class. I truly think you're assuming motives on the staff's part ... when the simple reason Enchanters are still (somewhat) unclassic is just that they haven't had the time to fix them yet.
Hard doubt this is just they don't have time, this project has more than 10 years and they somehow never noticed Encheaters not working properly?

Nah, even if they were too innocent about this many people like you told them multiple times and they did nothing about it, last year was when super hard evidence was brought to the table and even the admin saw it so why is it almost a year from that and this is still not changed, not even a word of "we are indeed working on it but no an ETA" ? because this is by design most probably and I find really pitty that this is the hill the administrator will die on.
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Old 10-26-2022, 12:07 PM
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Hard doubt this is just they don't have time, this project has more than 10 years and they somehow never noticed Encheaters not working properly?

Nah, even if they were too innocent about this many people like you told them multiple times and they did nothing about it, last year was when super hard evidence was brought to the table and even the admin saw it so why is it almost a year from that and this is still not changed, not even a word of "we are indeed working on it but no an ETA" ? because this is by design most probably and I find really pitty that this is the hill the administrator will die on.
Maybe you should quit again if it upsets you so much, and come back with a better fake new account with a better fake backstory on why you were gone
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Old 10-26-2022, 08:42 PM
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First off, this place is already like 95% classic, and it's impossible for it to ever get more than say 98% classic, because at least 2% of the info on how classic worked has been forever lost to time. So we're basically quibbling about something like 3%.

Second, even if they never fixed that 3%, it still would be more classic than any other server in existence, and it would still feel like the live servers to everyone who plays it. Also, while the server doesn't "advertise" anything to anyone (ie. you heard of P99 from somewhere else, not Rogean and Nilbog), but to whatever extent they have they've always been very clear that it's a work in progress, not a finished product.

But finally ... I don't think they're going to leave that 3%. I truly do think Nilbog (even if he did play an Enchanter on live) wants the most classic server possible, not a classic server with customizations for his favorite class. I truly think you're assuming motives on the staff's part ... when the simple reason Enchanters are still (somewhat) unclassic is just that they haven't had the time to fix them yet.
Nilbog didn't play enchanter in classic and nilbog started on a pvp server. If he was favoring what he played in classic... There would be a new pvp server after 15 years... Stick to fixing the wiki bird brain.
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Old 10-27-2022, 02:04 AM
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Nilbog didn't play enchanter in classic ... Stick to fixing the wiki bird brain.
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I truly do think Nilbog (even if he did play an Enchanter on live)
"Even if he did" does not mean "he did" in the English language.
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