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[Graahle]

TAKP is more classic.

Get mad

[Danth]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

* good enough; obviously there were other competitors before FF14, but they haven't (again, as far as we can tell) had the same impact on WoW subscriptions.

FF14 has been around awhile--it's not a new game. I think people switching to it has less to do with its mere existence, and more to do with folks being so uninterested in Warcraft's current content that alternatives formerly seen as inadequate now start to look like decent options.

Originally Posted by Graahle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TAKP is more classic.

Maybe. I've no arguments with respect to its build quality. Too bad it replicates an era of EQ that I detest. Glad the folks who like that era finally have a good option for it.

Danth

[Convict]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe. I've no arguments with respect to its build quality. Too bad it replicates an era of EQ that I detest. Glad the folks who like that era finally have a good option for it.

Danth

there are aspects of it that are actually more classic than p99. The UI, loading screen, and many other aspects are more classic. But of course right now it has luclin and they threw in PoK and its books for ease of travel. Its still very custom content to me, not in a bad way, just custom.

P99 did what it could to make a "about as classic as it can get" server minus all the problems that come with bloated end game population fighting over very limited resources and a server built off the titanium client. At the time titanium was the easy option as anybody who followed EQclassic.org knows they have spent over a decade trying to rebuild the client off the trilogy discs and get a working server and it still hasn't happened.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there are aspects of it that are actually more classic than p99. The UI, loading screen, and many other aspects are more classic. But of course right now it has luclin and they threw in PoK and its books for ease of travel. Its still very custom content to me, not in a bad way, just custom.

P99 did what it could to make a "about as classic as it can get" server minus all the problems that come with bloated end game population fighting over very limited resources and a server built off the titanium client. At the time titanium was the easy option as anybody who followed EQclassic.org knows they have spent over a decade trying to rebuild the client off the trilogy discs and get a working server and it still hasn't happened.

Secrets will figure it out someday, I have faith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But seriously, the fundamental thing that will always make TakP unclassic is the boxing. If you played on live from '99-'01 you probably didn't know anyone at all who boxed. Maybe you happened to know one rich person who already had two computers sitting side by side, and could afford two phone lines and two EQ accounts ... but the vast vast majority didn't.

The only people really boxing back then were those who played in computer gaming centers, schools, or other places where a bunch of computers with Internet connections were already in the same place ... and even then it wasn't one guy with multiple accounts so much as friends using each other's accounts.

P99 doesn't emulate that perfectly: instead of live's maybe 0.5%-1% of players boxing, we have (ostensibly) 0% ... but it will always be a million times more classic than TakP's "everyone is playing three accounts at once" system.

[Fammaden]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Secrets will figure it out someday, I have faith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But seriously, the fundamental thing that will always make TakP unclassic is the boxing. If you played on live from '99-'01 you probably didn't know anyone at all who boxed. Maybe you happened to know one rich person who already had two computers sitting side by side, and could afford two phone lines and two EQ accounts ... but the vast vast majority didn't.

The only people really boxing back then were those who played in computer gaming centers, schools, or other places where a bunch of computers with Internet connections were already in the same place ... and even then it wasn't one guy with multiple accounts so much as friends using each other's accounts.

P99 doesn't emulate that perfectly: instead of live's maybe 0.5%-1% of players boxing, we have (ostensibly) 0% ... but it will always be a million times more classic than TakP's "everyone is playing three accounts at once" system.

Somewhat disagree, I knew a number of people on Saryrn that two boxed in that era, but mostly they were tank mains who had a pocket cleric or general melee mains with pocket druid. It wasn't super widespread but it wasn't as rare as you describe.

I do agree that it was nothing like TAKP where the vast majority seems to triple box just because they can.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Secrets will figure it out someday, I have faith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But seriously, the fundamental thing that will always make TakP unclassic is the boxing. If you played on live from '99-'01 you probably didn't know anyone at all who boxed. Maybe you happened to know one rich person who already had two computers sitting side by side, and could afford two phone lines and two EQ accounts ... but the vast vast majority didn't.

The only people really boxing back then were those who played in computer gaming centers, schools, or other places where a bunch of computers with Internet connections were already in the same place ... and even then it wasn't one guy with multiple accounts so much as friends using each other's accounts.

P99 doesn't emulate that perfectly: instead of live's maybe 0.5%-1% of players boxing, we have (ostensibly) 0% ... but it will always be a million times more classic than TakP's "everyone is playing three accounts at once" system.

My dad had two accounts/computers to box from on live from 1999 on. He also played constantly, at least 4-5 hours a day for years....


His druid was level 58, probably lower than that during velious. He didn't get a max level toon until Luclin. People played EQ Socially a lot more back then. Half the time he was playing, he was doing shit like, helping his gf farm a screaming mace for her alt.... or helping a guildy. When he leveled, he'd like .. duo with his gf in burning wood who was also a druid. They would kill like 10 mobs an hour. And just chat while medding.

I remember one night very clearly, my dad was like 1 blue away from getting level 51 and becoming a wanderer for the first time. But was exhausted and went to bed. So I jumped on his computer and leveled his druid the rest of the way. (I was scared as fuck tbh because if I died he would have wigged out - rez's were super hard to come by back in the day) and in the 2 hours it took to get the rest of his level, multiple people in zone(like 4 separate people I had never seen) also camping 10 wasps an hour came by and talked to him as if they had spent hours talking on previous nights.

That's a big reason why I don't think raiding is fucked up on this server. On live, only the most hardcore and dedicated even got to max level, let alone raiding. On live, your entire 3 hour play session could be just going from one zone to another.

[nyclin]

p99:
pixel sickness
unemployment
addiction
desperation
forum post histories with the same 3 comments recycled 15000 times

takp:
objectively classic
most players have a 401k AND a roth
rogean actually talks to the community because they aren't a bunch of shitheels
raid rotations so you can go on your tinder date and then get your tormax helm after you get dome

[derpcake2]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Secrets will figure it out someday, I have faith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But seriously, the fundamental thing that will always make TakP unclassic is the boxing. If you played on live from '99-'01 you probably didn't know anyone at all who boxed. Maybe you happened to know one rich person who already had two computers sitting side by side, and could afford two phone lines and two EQ accounts ... but the vast vast majority didn't.

The only people really boxing back then were those who played in computer gaming centers, schools, or other places where a bunch of computers with Internet connections were already in the same place ... and even then it wasn't one guy with multiple accounts so much as friends using each other's accounts.

P99 doesn't emulate that perfectly: instead of live's maybe 0.5%-1% of players boxing, we have (ostensibly) 0% ... but it will always be a million times more classic than TakP's "everyone is playing three accounts at once" system.

Feels-based posts like this are the absolute worst. Would prefer Chortles posts.

[derpcake2]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only people really boxing back then were those who played in computer gaming centers, schools, or other places where a bunch of computers with Internet connections were already in the same place ... and even then it wasn't one guy with multiple accounts so much as friends using each other's accounts.

I started playing in a cybercafe.

Most of the customers ran 2-3 accounts. It was a large place, we did PoF with 20 guys controlling 55 chars.

The owner 6 boxed.

Going to leave this thread now, your posts are extremely annoying to read.

[loramin]

* good enough; obviously there were other competitors before FF14, but they haven't (again, as far as we can tell) had the same impact on WoW subscriptions.