US capital building gets breached. Is this the end?

[Lune]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Back to the topic of the thread:

An interesting point that people seem to be missing about yesterday’s events: the same political tactics that were used during the BLM riots (allowing them to go on without police intervention) were used in the nation’s capital to showcase the logical end-game of a lack of law and order.

Were the stakes significantly higher for this one? Yes, of course they were, and that’s the point. The takeaway of yesterday’s events is “here is a glimpse of the worst thing that can possibly happen when you don’t have law and order”. And what’s more, it puts the left in a jam. If they say that the lack of action to stop these criminals from breaking into the capitol building was a political tactic, then they are admitting that they did the same things themselves with the BLM riots. They’re saying that they allowed unrest and violence as a means to advance a political agenda. It’s quite the chess move.

What does BLM have to do with this thread or the events at the capitol?

Other than, you know, continual attempts on behalf of cultist traitors to spin and equivocate because their own positions, such as they are, are irrational and indefensible.

Keep pivoting. How about that deficit?

[indiscriminate_hater]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does BLM have to do with this thread or the events at the capitol?

Other than, you know, continual attempts on behalf of cultist traitors to spin and equivocate because their own positions, such as they are, are irrational and indefensible.

Keep pivoting. How about that deficit?

I literally explained that in the post. Not sure how much more clear it can be.

Does it suprise you that I am not on the side of these Trump supporters? Does it surprise you that I agree that Trump fucked up the deficit? It shouldn't, because I never gave any indication otherwise. Re: the defecit, I was making observations and speculations based on the evidence we've seen so far of how Americans have acted when ordered to lock down. Re: yesterday, I'm pointing out similar tactics used by scumbag politicans on both sides and the reasons behind using those tactics.

The fact that when I made observations which didn't fit your view of reality, you and the other guy immediately put me into the right-wing bucket, is a sad example of the political reality in the US right now. This is the same attitude that's causing so much division in this country. You can disagree with me without demonizing me, or assuming what I believe.

[budz2112]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I literally explained that in the post. Not sure how much more clear it can be.

Does it suprise you that I am not on the side of these Trump supporters? Does it surprise you that I agree that Trump fucked up the deficit? It shouldn't, because I never gave any indication otherwise. Re: the defecit, I was making observations and speculations based on the evidence we've seen so far of how Americans have acted when ordered to lock down. Re: yesterday, I'm pointing out similar tactics used by scumbag politicans on both sides and the reasons behind using those tactics.

The fact that when I made observations which didn't fit your view of reality, you and the other guy immediately put me into the right-wing bucket, is a sad example of the political reality in the US right now. This is the same attitude that's causing so much division in this country. You can disagree with me without demonizing me, or assuming what I believe.

Than why was it so hard to say when I told the facts of the deficit, you deflected for like 5 posts, oh and I never called you right wing or a trump supporter. I simply argued against the things you said, because they are wrong. SImple as that unlike some people who call themselves realists here, I am a realist and I could care less what party you are with.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does BLM have to do with this thread or the events at the capitol?

Other than, you know, continual attempts on behalf of cultist traitors to spin and equivocate because their own positions, such as they are, are irrational and indefensible.

Keep pivoting. How about that deficit?

Police and military responses were dissimilar. Planned differently.
BLM violence wasn't encouraged or incited by people with authority sworn to uphold the constitution.

Some of the insurrectionists cited the BLM riots as a justification for insurrection. And rebellion. I watched as some screamed about racism and fearing reparations towards the black community. Maybe a legitimate grievance or fear, I'm not going to debate them, but still not justification for interrupting our constitutional elections and a peaceful transition of power. Especially since none of this stuff exists outside of what ifs and political rhetoric to reach out to voters that want it discussed. I got all this eyewitness from the livestream. It wasn't faked.

White privilege and insecurities are real. We should definitely address them and reassure these people we aren't going to steal their beer money for black reparations. Even if it's just crazy talk.

There's definitely deeply divided racial undercurrents to this violence.

[indiscriminate_hater]

My point isn't about the reason behind the riots and break-in. Of course they are different. That's obvious and doesn't need to be said, or at least I thought so.

The point is about the political strategy behind yesterday's events. Please try to understand that.

[budz2112]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point isn't about the reason behind the riots and break-in. Of course they are different. That's obvious and doesn't need to be said, or at least I thought so.

The point is about the political strategy behind yesterday's events. Please try to understand that.

The political strategy was to try to keep a dictator in power and delay a constitutional process, which his lawyer aired on a misdirected voicemail. Sorry its hard for you to understand

[DMN]

Join Date: Jan 2021

[budz2112]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Join Date: Jan 2021

posts : 2700

Btw neither of these matter

oh and if you think im just someone else creating another account, just look at how I argue, i dont really sound like anyone here now or in the past. Yesterday was a turning day, and people on forums who lie daily are what brings yesterday to happen

[DMN]

Originally Posted by budz2112 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

posts : 2700

Btw neither of these matter

Of course they matter, sock puppet.

[Mblake81]

Whos alt are you?