Shocking leaked image shows spirit of compromise on p99 in A/A's absence!

[Breaken]

Originally Posted by Vallanor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Azure Guard becomes the new Taken and wants to blow everything up and stomp down the little guys, we'd just be removed from the rotation and put into Class C or whatever it's called this time around.

Pretty sure it was BDA who blew it up. All Taken did was request guilds to sign up together if they raided together, as you have done now with CSG. I find it funny because when we discussed the Ring War rotation, I made it very clear this is still important for any rotation, and CSG agreed, as they don't sign up for 3 slots.

[Vallanor]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure it was BDA who blew it up. All Taken did was request guilds to sign up together if they raided together, as you have done now with CSG. I find it funny because when we discussed the Ring War rotation, I made it very clear this is still important for any rotation, and CSG agreed, as they don't sign up for 3 slots.

I think that's pretty reasonable honestly. Some of the "kill Gorenaire within one hour no matter when it pops" stuff was a bit much, but signing up as one entity if you end up raiding together anyway makes a lot of sense. I wasn't involved in any of the discussions so I don't know who demanded what, but I'd believe that it was BDA that ruined everything. As I've learned from historically accurate Swish-posting, BDA is just the worst.

[Ravager]

Without GM intervention on the rotation, it won't work, since there's no incentive to keep the rotation for people willing to suffer hemorrhoids to attain pixels. Back before the R rotation broke up, Sirken pushed for guilds coming to an agreement on the rotation, even acknowledging it himself that it was good for the server, but for whatever reason he did not want to enforce it. So that's that.

[Vallanor]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without GM intervention on the rotation, it won't work, since there's no incentive to keep the rotation for people willing to suffer hemorrhoids to attain pixels. Back before the R rotation broke up, Sirken pushed for guilds coming to an agreement on the rotation, even acknowledging it himself that it was good for the server, but for whatever reason he did not want to enforce it. So that's that.

Edited my previous post to mention GM enforcement. I agree it's really important.

[Kagey]

Can confirm it was bda. And it was marvelous.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Kagey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can confirm it was bda. And it was marvelous.

Then they got salty there wasn't one for Velious, declared the raid scene untenable because they had 70-80 raiders that weren't getting guaranteed drops anymore.

A bunch who followed them to Phinny don't raid with them anymore, you can see why. I think if the rotation hadn't blown up there'd be more of an appetite for one here. Maybe it can be done.

[Rygar]

I'm curious if some form of rotation came back if devs would remove variance. Also curious if A/A would support at least some rotations if variance was removed on those mobs.

Wasn't around when it happened, but was variance a result of the FTE racing?

I'm not sure if variance creates less spawns or more spawns on average.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm curious if some form of rotation came back if devs would remove variance. Also curious if A/A would support at least some rotations if variance was removed on those mobs.

Wasn't around when it happened, but was variance a result of the FTE racing?

FTE has been a thing since they removed the first in force rule. The FTE shouts were just put in to curb constant petitions about who had FTE (clearly to resounding success!) since before it was a tactic of one particular guild to tag a raid mob (without a force to kill it) that another guild was pulling and then petitioning the loot.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Breaken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure it was BDA who blew it up. All Taken did was request guilds to sign up together if they raided together, as you have done now with CSG. I find it funny because when we discussed the Ring War rotation, I made it very clear this is still important for any rotation, and CSG agreed, as they don't sign up for 3 slots.

All class R members had a part in the rotations fall. We just happen to get the blame because we were the last push. Whatever, consider Phinny.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All class R members had a part in the rotations fall. We just happen to get the blame because we were the last push. Whatever, consider Phinny.

Yeah damn Moonlight Crusaders and Supremacy, how dare true casual guilds shit up the rotation by asking to be on the list. Better adjust it and have Gorenaire as the gatekeeper to getting on the list lol.

You axed it for a play for more pixels. It worked short term, collapsing a couple of genuinely casual guilds so you and your casually hardcore pals (Taken) could take 2 out of 3 class R dragons. That's why CSG formed, because the meta was zerging content.

How could Supremacy, MC, Divinity, or any of the other smaller guilds (read: the TRUE casual guilds) really compete at the time?

Answer: they couldn't (and you knew it)