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[Whirled]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey, I already suggested this! No one wants to listen to reason though.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink!

Make one giant zerg raiding guild already!

Then you all can have your pixels and eat it too.

I thought it was, "You can lead them to the river but you can't drown them in it"

or was it, " Hey you kids get off my lawn & stop chasing that chicken across the road"

Seriously though: they have decent idea name it <The Raid> or <Raiders> *dibs on the royalties (tm)

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought it was, "You can lead them to the river but you can't drown them in it"

or was it, " Hey you kids get off my lawn & stop chasing that chicken across the road"

Seriously though: they have decent idea name it <The Raid> or <Raiders> *dibs on the royalties (tm)

The problem with this idea though is that the nerds who love to brag and feel superior to other nerds couldn't get off on withholding pixels from the weaker nerds.

This is the best part of being in the top poopsocking raid guild, you get to brag about how you got certain pixels while others did not, thanks to your ingenius methods of stopping the others from getting them first.

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I appreciate your willingness to throw an idea forward, but just look at the complexity that exists in your plan with completely arbitrary made up rules. What happens when new guilds emerge that want to be part of a rotation?

There is no long-term solution that will ever please everyone and work on Project 1999 because instances and enforced rotations don't exist. Furthermore, some of the sociopaths on the top would never want an established rotation and play because they want to make sure others get denied content in a non-PVP game. I remember TMO charging millions of platinum they probably didn't need for certain epics just because they could: http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=81892

If anyone ever makes a blue server with an active population of at least 150 players that is instanced through Velious and ends at Velious, please let me know. I would like that server a lot.

Complicated...mmm yeah, sorta.
Made up? All game rules are made up.
These rules are not arbitrary...maybe I miss what you mean.
When a new guild needs to be added, they get bundled with a group or a day is added to cycle length.

I get your main point though, no perfect solution.

[Whirled]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with this idea though is that the nerds who love to brag and feel superior to other nerds couldn't get off on withholding pixels from the weaker nerds.

This is the best part of being in the top poopsocking raid guild, you get to brag about how you got certain pixels while others did not, thanks to your ingenius methods of stopping the others from getting them first.

Hmm.. yea, I get ya. MMO Raiding does tend to bring out the worst in some.
Flip side this: Perhaps we could make a toll booth on some of their roads and charge them a nerd tax to get out of their houses to get more hot pockets or Doctor Pepper? Perhaps this is too close to 2 wrongs don't make a right tho...

I'm confused to how many want a "better" solution and how many like the status quo though.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm.. yea, I get ya. MMO Raiding does tend to bring out the worst in some.
Flip side this: Perhaps we could make a toll booth on some of their roads and charge them a nerd tax to get out of their houses to get more hot pockets or Doctor Pepper? Perhaps this is too close to 2 wrongs don't make a right tho...

I'm confused to how many want a "better" solution and how many like the status quo though.

Every single guild but A/A wants a "better" solution and A/A absolutely does not care as long as the system allows them to dominate with their numbers / infrastructure / and tendency to play a shit ton.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Ciroco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Until the GMs stepped in, sure.

GM's largely did not step in that often. They are more involved on this server than they ever were on live.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every single guild but A/A wants a "better" solution and A/A absolutely does not care as long as the system allows them to dominate with their tendency to play a shit ton.

That's sticking it to them with no lube.

[Whirled]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every single guild but A/A wants a "better" solution and A/A absolutely does not care as long as the system allows them to dominate with their numbers / infrastructure / and tendency to play a shit ton.

aha.. hmm so the pixel BMOC doesn't like when the other players get too close to their treasures + clutches their pearls. Well, without diplomacy or the desire to even discuss any further choices it does tend to damper many other peoples game. Forcing others to play as they play is not the answer since most people do not have the freedom 24/7 to sit in front of any game for an ungodly amount of time.
Well, I can totally get why people are leaving the server for other games now & see why others went to raid on other servers. Especially when there's no chance for a civil discussion of how to make Norrath great again and the elite few just are a constant wall to other players.
If I have any of this wrong, please enlighten since I am not a raider but was thinking of doing so. After reading ... some.. of this..I'm not so sure anymore.

[justinf1000]

Instanced raiding would solve everything!

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Whirled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

aha.. hmm so the pixel BMOC doesn't like when the other players get too close to their treasures + clutches their pearls. Well, without diplomacy or the desire to even discuss any further choices it does tend to damper many other peoples game. Forcing others to play as they play is not the answer since most people do not have the freedom 24/7 to sit in front of any game for an ungodly amount of time.
Well, I can totally get why people are leaving the server for other games now & see why others went to raid on other servers. Especially when there's no chance for a civil discussion of how to make Norrath great again and the elite few just are a constant wall to other players.
If I have any of this wrong, please enlighten since I am not a raider but was thinking of doing so. After reading ... some.. of this..I'm not so sure anymore.

If you come to P99 for raiding, you better be capable of poopsocking for long hours and be fully prepared to kiss a lot of ass.

Without one or both qualities above you will be nothing but a bottom feeder who only gets the leftovers of pixels the coterie that runs whatever raid guild you join determines they don't want.

Even the "casual" raid guilds have hardcore members and their core groups are equally greedy for pixels, they are no different than the supposedly awful A/A guilds, only A/A have more resources to dominate more content here.

Yes, it's that bad. Do yourself a favor, don't ever raid here. It will kill your gaming soul.