The left has gone full retard

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your point is what exactly? Decartes was a psychopath so I take him with a grain of salt. Im talking about your cartesian ego. Now you want to bring up kant. How is that beer delivery job going?

The Cartesian Ego is focused around Descarte's famous, "Cogito ergo sum," which is derived from having the ability to doubt existence in thought is proof of existence with the sanction of God. I've used it in a way of folks having a lack of doubt of their own thoughts which become presented as the only correct notion ("I think A so B is inherently wrong because I didn't think it")(The dependent clause is what typically manifests when presented with contrary evidence which then breaks down into ad hominem). I bring up Kant because I agree with an ethic based upon a duty. The parable speaks that a merchant has a duty to offer a fair price and that the buyer has a duty to know a fair price. That goes beyond an "I think therefore..." mindset since it is from the view of a person interacting within a greater sphere than their own thoughts.

The job's going well. Morning round was completed then fermentation measurements and some tank washing. Next is the secound round of deliveries. How is your job going?

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously don't know who Immanuel Kant is? I thought they thought this in school at least.

First thing to get cut in budgets is education, so anyone worth while to read gets tossed. Hell, Twain was almost removed from my highschool because he uses ******.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously don't know who Immanuel Kant is? I thought they thought this in school at least.

They may have, but the likelihood of me remembering is slim in the case of unapplied knowledge. My brain is like working with unaddressed storage space. Stuff just gets dumped and over the long term I won't recall it except by some act of inspiration. And I lack the desire/necessity to build a memory palace.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right socialism does have a definition.


Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production;[10] as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment.[11] Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective, or cooperative ownership; to citizen ownership of equity; or to any combination of these.[12] Although there are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them,[13] social ownership is the common element shared by its various forms.[5][14][15]

Socialist economic systems can be divided into both non-market and market forms.[16] Non-market socialism involves the substitution of factor markets and money with engineering and technical criteria based on calculation performed in-kind, thereby producing an economic mechanism that functions according to different economic laws from those of capitalism. Non-market socialism aims to circumvent the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system.[25] By contrast, market socialism retains the use of monetary prices, factor markets, and, in some cases, the profit motive with respect to the operation of socially-owned enterprises and the allocation of capital goods between them. Profits generated by these firms would be controlled directly by the workforce of each firm or accrue to society at large in the form of a social dividend.[26][27][28] The feasibility and exact methods of resource allocation and calculation for a socialist system are the subjects of the socialist calculation debate.

The socialist political movement includes a diverse array of political philosophies that originated amid the revolutionary movements of the mid-to-late 1700s and of a general concern for the social problems that were associated with capitalism.[13] In addition to the debate over markets and planning, the varieties of socialism differ in their form of social ownership, how management is to be organized within productive institutions, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.[2][13] Core dichotomies associated with these concerns include reformism versus revolutionary socialism, and state socialism versus libertarian socialism. Socialist politics has been both centralist and decentralized; internationalist and nationalist in orientation; organized through political parties and opposed to party politics; at times overlapping with trade unions and at other times independent of, and critical of, unions; and present in both industrialized and developing countries.[29] While all tendencies of socialism consider themselves democratic, the term "democratic socialism" is often used to highlight its advocates' high value for democratic processes in the economy and democratic political systems,[30] usually to draw contrast to tendencies they may perceive to be undemocratic in their approach. The term is frequently used to draw contrast to the political system of the Soviet Union, which some have argued operated in an authoritarian fashion.




Class is dismissed Santa... maybe you should have attended once or twice.

Christ you're dumb.

Im not dumb you are the one fighting 160 years of socialist history. Did you even read what you posted? Its just more of the same trying to distance themselves from the core ideology. Trying to make distinctions that arent even distinctions but more or less just describe an incrementalist approach to the same outcome. Here is the distinction trying to be made. Soviets were autocratic and socialism-lite pretends to be democratic but only in so much as it is a step towards autocratic socialism.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First thing to get cut in budgets is education, so anyone worth while to read gets tossed. Hell, Twain was almost removed from my highschool because he uses ******.

I was convinced throughout school that it was the mission of public schools to subsidize bad literature.

[dafier]

I remember when I grew up and we had the dewy decibel system in the library and the "N" word meant, 'An ignorant person'.

Public schools are getting worse and for the most part it isn't due to the teachers. It's all of our fault. We need to take the power away from the government and put it in the hands of the locals, city/state and county hands.

In order for the state to get fed money, they have to accept fed curriculum. And, that curriculum is for the dumbest of all our children.

It's a broken system, and it's been broke for decades.

I blame Obama and his Marxist views. And, I blame all the damn libtards

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They may have, but the likelihood of me remembering is slim in the case of unapplied knowledge. My brain is like working with unaddressed storage space. Stuff just gets dumped and over the long term I won't recall it except by some act of inspiration. And I lack the desire/necessity to build a memory palace.

They just want to sound smart. They want to try to bring up arcane parables that literally have nothing to do with the conversation. He brought up Descarte to try to push some back of the van philosophy of his about why he thinks people follow certain lines of thinking. He brings up some parable from Kant about duty and ethics even though we live in a post modern society that has destroyed values and the traditional institutions that was derived from (family, state, community, racial groups etc).

We need more misology. People like Jews have high verbal I.Q. and the left has used that to build rhetoric which they use to destroy traditional values. People are catching on and are sick of the BS. You guys cant stay on topic because anytime we point out a flaw or failing you want to switch the subject to something else.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People like Jews have high verbal I.Q.

Let me sum that up for you. It's called 'Deceit'.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First thing to get cut in budgets is education, so anyone worth while to read gets tossed. Hell, Twain was almost removed from my highschool because he uses ******.

Well keeping people stupid is one of the best ways to maintain an authoritarian government.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im not dumb you are the one fighting 160 years of socialist history. Did you even read what you posted? Its just more of the same trying to distance themselves from the core ideology. Trying to make distinctions that arent even distinctions but more or less just describe an incrementalist approach to the same outcome. Here is the distinction trying to be made. Soviets were autocratic and socialism-lite pretends to be democratic but only in so much as it is a step towards autocratic socialism.

Do you even read what you posted? You make a statement then contradict yourself then reaffirm your statement. The faulty thinking your present is fucking comical at this point.