RELEASE LUCLIN ON RED

[krazyGlue]

I have 6million raw plat and countless top tier items and 12 level 60s why would I ask for a wipe ? I love this server

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said "More on that later". You are reaching with that pal and making selective attacks now.

When the Luclin Raid Pressure Relief Theory is unveiled, everything will make sense.

I've got a better idea. If you want expansions, go play on the live servers because they have all of them. If you want classic, then stay here. Regardless, Luclin has never been in the cards for this server and, based on responses from GMs and Devs alike, is never going to happen here.

Look at the past changes that have increased population. No item loot. YT. Experience bonus. No experience loss on death (something I don't even agree with, but whatever). They all have one thing in common: they remove barriers to PvP. Even YT, which seems meaningless, provides epeen incentive to engage in PvP.

More zones and raid targets both decrease the likelihood of PvP. It's so simple and obvious that I don't see why you're not getting it. For Luclin to work and, indeed, for velious to work, we'd need hundreds more people on this server. We ain't got hundreds more people, and there's no evidence to support the idea that releasing Luclin would bring in more.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have 6million raw plat and countless top tier items and 12 level 60s why would I ask for a wipe ? I love this server

Sorry pal hard to keep track of these extremists w/out NSA help. My apologies.

I can tell you are afraid of Luclin pixels affecting your PvP and giving you less targets by adding more zones, but the Luclin Raid Pressure Relief Theory will show you why that is totally wrong.

For one, Velious BIS and Luclin BIS are identical aside from spell focus and mana regen (which is a much needed balance item for PvP).

If you are ok with Velious gear gap, by being against a wipe you seem to be ok with it, Luclin BIS is same stats as Velious BIS.

[derpcake]

luclin isn't happening

its a shitty troll also, go support trump instead

[krazyGlue]

Luclin wi result in the same outcome velious did an influx of a few players for a few months then a ghost town. Server sucks due to 90-120man Zerg . Can't compete with that if he population is at 180 at peak . Just let the server die in peace .

[silo32]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have 6million raw plat and countless top tier items and 12 level 60s why would I ask for a wipe ? I love this server

but haggles with me in game over a ssb saying 1k is too much and you wont pay any more than 600 even tho you have millions

you said this in game too

[SamwiseRed]

should just play in a progression guild on live then. test server or something. sounds like p99 is not for u.

[Tradesonred]

lol @ heartbrand trying to frame classic population drop as a PVE thing.

Comparison to Rallos (which im guessing is where alot of those 600 people came from)

On Rallos you actually stopped to pvp on the way up. It was fun.

On Red, you either gank trained or gave up trying to pvp after the first few xp deaths, turning red into purple hide and seek (Generally speaking, a few exceptions). It was boring.

That is a MAAAAAJOOOOOOOOR difference, night and day.

Holocaust made it clear it was gonna use XP death in pvp to "grief people off the server" and thats exactly what happened.

[krazyGlue]

Originally Posted by silo32 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but haggles with me in game over a ssb saying 1k is too much and you wont pay any more than 600 even tho you have millions

you said this in game too

and the reason i have millions is because i dont buy over priced items

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by easy_lee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Classic saw the quickest drop because that's how every server for every game ever works. People try it because it's new, then they leave. And, in case you forgot, those were the days when people could loot gear off of each other, a rule which doesn't mesh well with a game built around progression.

It was in fact alot of fun, months, years of fun, to play elf counterstrike with item loot on Rallos

Too bad the devs didnt see it this way. That, coupled with item loot would have insured a server with a much better longevity. Instead we watched helplessly as everything we told the devs would happen happened.

No economy, unlootable hard twinks, the same hundred toxic trolls to play with once everyone else left the boat, yeah.