Class "R" rotation and Sky about to fall apart

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why do u want us so bad to compete with you?

we don't want to.

quit asking us out you creep.

no one in bda wants to do anything closely associated with the way tmo plays the game.

just stop. no one likes you. go play with IB.

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You guys put in more work on these forums and with your rotation to assure your free mobs than it actually takes to compete in Class C. It's kinda funny to watch how limited the intelligence is in some of the BDA officers. It looks like Class R is way more stagnated now with BDA and Taken there than it would be if they moved to Class C and competed like they should. You guys wouldn't lose mobs you would just have to put forth some actual effort in game instead of on the forums. You would still get roughly the same amount of kills. I guess that takes common sense and not some tinfoil retardation though.

[Rivthis]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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You guys put in more work on these forums and with your rotation to assure your free mobs than it actually takes to compete in Class C. It's kinda funny to watch how limited the intelligence is in some of the BDA officers. It looks like Class R is way more stagnated now with BDA and Taken there than it would be if they moved to Class C and competed like they should. You guys wouldn't lose mobs you would just have to put forth some actual effort in game instead of on the forums. You would still get roughly the same amount of kills. I guess that takes common sense and not some tinfoil retardation though.

Work harder for the same amount of kills. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would anyone work 80 hours a week to make $500 when they could work 40 hours and still make $500?

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Rivthis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Why would anyone work 80 hours a week to make $500 when they could work 40 hours and still make $500?

This is the mentality that lead to class R in the first place. Did anyone else see this coming when the whole raid scene was being redefined? I did. You wanted to rotate your shit, so rotate it. More mouths to feed isn't our problem, just like autofire isn't "class R's" problem.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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You guys put in more work on these forums and with your rotation to assure your free mobs than it actually takes to compete in Class C. It's kinda funny to watch how limited the intelligence is in some of the BDA officers. It looks like Class R is way more stagnated now with BDA and Taken there than it would be if they moved to Class C and competed like they should. You guys wouldn't lose mobs you would just have to put forth some actual effort in game instead of on the forums. You would still get roughly the same amount of kills. I guess that takes common sense and not some tinfoil retardation though.

Lazie, I personally work to ensure the Rotation is upheld night and day and check it around the clock as the discussions rage but my guild does not. I commit myself to leading a more hardcore gaming life style so they do not have to. Every guild leader understands what I'm saying and is probably in the same boat. I personally never receive loot because there is not a whole lot outside of VP that I really need. But my guild of casual players are not at all the same and cannot devote the time I have to be more than casual.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lazie, I personally work to ensure the Rotation is upheld night and day and check it around the clock as the discussions rage but my guild does not. I commit myself to leading a more hardcore gaming life style so they do not have to. Every guild leader understands what I'm saying and is probably in the same boat. I personally never receive loot because there is not a whole lot outside of VP that I really need. But my guild of casual players are not at all the same and cannot devote the time I have to be more than casual.

I am sure several people work to uphold it bk...That isn't the point I was making. Your guild is a perfect example of a Class R guild. Solid members still needing to acquire gear and levels to progress. BDA is the definition of a Class C guild. Large roster of level 60s with the gear to compete and the numbers to track and batphone at most hours of the day. You could put an experienced raid leader and guild leader at the head of BDA right now and they would be a force on the server.

The leadership of BDA however would rather crowd the Class R spawn cycle and dilute the pool of mobs for the smaller less capable guilds simply because it's easy for them. They then come to the forums and paint misconceptions about Class C and make it sound like something it isn't in its current state. They do this so they can tell guilds like yours "See this is why we are Class R that over there is a shitshow"...Which it isn't 90% of the time.

Honestly raiding Class C is quite easy once you gain experience and have a good understanding of Everquest mechanics with the current mob windows. You spend maybe 2(sometimes 3) days a week actually being ready to raid with your characters. The rest of the time you don't even have to log into Everquest unless you want to. With a large roster(Especially the one the size of BDA) you have plenty of people to cover tracking the short windows these mobs have. Sure every now and again a train happens or someone KSes and it comes to RNF. Things like that happen every now and again when 2 guilds are racing for mobs. Most the time it is easily handled between the 2 parties involved with very little drama.

[arsenalpow]

How about TMO and IB rotate mobs with the rest of the server? Does that sound ok?

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

try to visualize:

one giant fat kid (TMO)
nineteen skinny kids (each representing every other guild on the server)

there are 100 twinkies placed on the table each month.

typically the giant fat kid eats 81 of these twinkies.
the other nineteen twinkies are divided evenly among the nineteen skinny kids so that they get one twinkie each.

Then a new kid shows up (representing a newly founded guild that wants to join the rotation).
The giant fat kid boasts that in order for things to be fair, the new kid should get some of the twinkies that the skinny kids share instead of sharing one of his 81 twinkies.

This is why it is so funny when TMO tries to act like they care about anyone but themselves.

Except the fat kid works all day and stays up all night earning money to buy his Twinkies.

The nineteen skinny kids have no jobs, and spend their welfare checks on booze and drugs. They use whatever is left over to buy themselves one Twinkie each.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except the fat kid works all day and stays up all night earning money to buy his Twinkies.

The nineteen skinny kids have no jobs, and spend their welfare checks on booze and drugs. They use whatever is left over to buy themselves one Twinkie each.

i honestly hope you don't believe that

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i honestly hope you don't believe that

Do I think you're all on welfare and hooked on drugs? Absolutely not.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do I think you're all on welfare and hooked on drugs? Absolutely not.

I do.