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Old 01-01-2014, 01:58 PM
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I could see why you would endorse this proposal, but I think randoming off all mobs for two weeks is kinda silly. I really believe that a bag limit system would be best for all.
I freely admit my bias. But I think that bias is shared among other quite a few other people: a bag limit still requires 'competition' and batphoning and poopsocking and all of the other nonsense. Only a rotation frees us from that idiocy.
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Old 01-01-2014, 02:11 PM
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The key to the bag limit thing is to have the bag limit be relatively small. Top guild gets VP + 1-3 other targets a month, +1-2 targets for each kill they lose in VP. Other guilds are forced to use their bag limit to take no more than 1/4th or 1/5th of the pie. After the first couple of pie slices (i.e. TMO and FE), competition begins to get a lot more even, and we're not just dealing with the sort of scraps offered by the FE proposal. BDA can't just pick it's top targets and keep them from Taken, Div, etc. the way TMO and FE effectively can. And with 5 pie slices up for grabs, pretty much every guild can get at least a piece of that 5th slice.

TMO just prefers a system where they get their top targets (all of VP) and more than half of all other raid spawns. Which is actually what Div et al. are offering.
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Old 01-01-2014, 02:54 PM
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Well here we go moments of truth. A new year without an agreement being met by anyone but TMO and FEib kinda ironic now
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Old 01-01-2014, 02:55 PM
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People want free handouts, don't ever want to track. Remove variance and I think it'd be a better place for a rotation like server
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Old 01-01-2014, 02:56 PM
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People want free handouts, don't ever want to track. Remove variance and I think it'd be a better place for a rotation like server
Aye, let me know when its time to make 20 alts for various guilds in the rotation so I can play on a regular basis.
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Old 01-01-2014, 02:56 PM
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Well here we go moments of truth. A new year without an agreement being met by anyone but TMO and FEib kinda ironic now
Screw those guys for being organized and trying to come to agreement; we should just ban them all!

Filthy casuals were right all along, about what im not sure.
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Old 01-01-2014, 03:16 PM
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Way to take a quote out of context, Splorf:

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Just addressing the title of this thread:

Why would I lock the server because the raid guilds can't come to an agreement? You guys are forgetting you are a minority. The server does NOT revolve around the raid guilds and who gets dragon pixels. The majority of this server enjoys the normal content and I wouldn't allow the raid scene to ruin the server for everyone else.
Pretty sure he was talking to all the raid guilds, not just TMO or FE/IB.

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this is absolutely the wrong way to be thinking. it is selfish, it is short sighted, and it is immature as fuck. stop thinking about your self and start thinking about whats best for THE SERVER. that means ALL current guilds (yes even the ones you hate), and it means to plan for future players and guilds that may not yet even play here.

the staff has been and will continue to monitor progress on these discussions. and we reserve the right to do absolutely anything imaginable (or unimaginable), as we see for the betterment of the server's future moving forward.
^That was also to everyone, not just one or two guilds.
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Old 01-01-2014, 03:21 PM
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Pretty sure he was talking to all the raid guilds, not just TMO or FE/IB.
Can I take this as an official statement that The A-Team qualifies as an interested party for any agreements to be hashed out? Because that is not at all clear to anyone, really.
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Old 01-01-2014, 03:22 PM
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Can I take this as an official statement that The A-Team qualifies as an interested party for any agreements to be hashed out? Because that is not at all clear to anyone, really.
I THINK HE MEANS EVERYONE, not just do as we say or no agrreement
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Old 01-01-2014, 03:23 PM
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Can I take this as an official statement that The A-Team qualifies as an interested party for any agreements to be hashed out? Because that is not at all clear to anyone, really.
Not up to me. Ask the other raid guilds.
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