FE takes sky Sundays

[Detoxx]

Proof: Lord Bob has every intention of ignoring the sky rotation

Conspiracy: Blame TMO

[kotton05]

The fact some salty asshole ex-Tmo's decided to fuck up our sky day means you forfeited your slot.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pharma, I recognize how the situation presents itself as a "Forceful Entry" into sky, however our response to "Shotgun Sunday" was after one of our officers tried to negotiate with Lord Bob after we ported up to sky to find their guild already there. There response to us was, "I don't give a fuck about your rotation, fuck off"... Not sure if this is just Lord Bob's way of making friends on the server or a continuation of ex-TMO leadership's "Divine Right" mindset.

I used this forum and the responses of many players to gauge whether or not Forceful Entry would continue to pursue Sunday as a time slot and from my understanding, with the exception of ex-TMO, we have nearly unanimous support. If there are any concerns I can address beyond this, I welcome PM's or /tells.

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They came up to sky before us on sat to grief us...

i wasn't aware that this was a response to Lord Bob's actions this morning, i figured it was just coincidental. that does change things a little.

idk, i just want us all to get along, so i'm trying to diffuse the arguing and spark some rational discussions.

maybe i'm just making things worse.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Proof: Lord Bob has every intention of ignoring the sky rotation

Conspiracy: Blame TMO

More spin. No facts.

The fact is even you guys admit formerly tagged TMO members were at that Sky Raid. You can't spin it. Did they do it to get a rise out of FE ? Likely. Was it malicious beyond a "We got you guys" moment ? Not likely. But members of your former guild helped start and attended a sky raid today for "fun". However people have a different definition of fun that doesn't usually involve screwing with other guilds for that fun. Again its the same mentality that has made most of the server despise quite a few of TMO's members. It says to the server "We aren't going to change no matter what guild tag we wear and no matter what Rogean says". The antics just keep continuing.

[Detoxx]

Damn Merkk, you got me smoked in post count! I must forumquest harder!

[Lammy]

Detoxx is right, at some point the Blame TMO game has to stop. You guys are arguing we are not a guild when it suits you, then at the other flip of a coin we are TMO messing up YOUR Saturday slot (with 3 people). Since the ban wave (and even some before), there's been some genuine heartfelt discussion among TMO about what mobs we don't need to touch anymore, and what we can do to help the raid scene. We even included some guilds into our raid targets and random off some top notch pieces of loot within the last week, offering 1 or 2 guilds their first dragon kills on the server. We ENJOYED that. We aren't an evil bunch of people, just a competitive lot.

So, if you're expecting some reformed version of TMO to come back and contribute to the new epiphany of the server, then this just isn't the way to start that off. That's is all I'm arguing for. All this other trivial discussion is ridiculous.

[Phantasm]

I don't see how this is a discussion at all - this has become a few people arguing over NOTHING. Almost all of the guilds currently adhering to the player conspired Sky schedule are honoring and accepting FE's desire to move to a better time slot. A guild can not contest that if they are NO longer a guild, that shouldn't have to be stated.

As to the Bob's noncommittal approach to the scheduling of Sky that is exactly the attitude the GM's did NOT want to see. They expect us to settle this among ourselves and not try to be separate elitists all holding measuring sticks. Pointing the blame at one person or even one guild is not correct - this withering of humility has been happening for a long time and has been happening from EVERY guild. This cut-throat mentality just has no room in the ENJOYABLE raid scenario.

Now I know there will inevitably be a few top guilds, and that's to be expected, but this constant bickering is NOT the way to go about settling things. Use your brain, I know most of you have them. If an underdog wants a shot, whose to stop them from trying? The same guilds vying for dominance. This is supposed to be a player coordinated attempt at civility, lets give it a shot ?

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More spin. No facts.

I'm trying to understand this, but when you say stuff like this, and clearly the facts are present, it's just mind boggling. I'm not making shit up here, it has been proven that they are completely prepared to ignore all sky rotations.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Detoxx is right, at some point the Blame TMO game has to stop. You guys are arguing we are not a guild when it suits you, then at the other flip of a coin we are TMO messing up YOUR Saturday slot (with 3 people). Since the ban wave (and even some before), there's been some genuine heartfelt discussion among TMO about what mobs we don't need to touch anymore, and what we can do to help the raid scene. We even included some guilds into our raid targets and random off some top notch pieces of loot within the last week, offering 1 or 2 guilds their first dragon kills on the server. We ENJOYED that. We aren't an evil bunch of people, just a competitive lot.

So, if you're expecting some reformed version of TMO to come back and contribute to the new epiphany of the server, then this just isn't the way to start that off. That's is all I'm arguing for. All this other trivial discussion is ridiculous.

Agreed it is getting no one anywhere. But for just this week since what happened today was unfortunate. Can we let FE have Sunday morning tomorrow and work on the schedule to get the time slots straightened out for everyone ? It is unfortunate you guys lost your guild so fast and there are hard feelings between players of that guild and TMO. Let's start burying the hatchet right here..right now and come to a compromise since FE lost there slot this morning.

[kotton05]

Amen