Raiding in P1999 is nothing like raiding in classic.

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Yapas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Amen.

they are just blinded by hatred and maybe even of jealousy.

Like I say sometimes in French : Les chiens aboient, la caravane passe.

It's good to be on the winning side, that will never change. But games nowadays don't want to deal with people raging so they instance content. EQ was a game designed around PVE competition. Look at the polls they are throwing up for EQN, they've specifically asked how much content they should instance.

It's a double edged sword...do you want instanced WoW style content where you farm badges and turn them in every 3-4 weeks (minimum) for a piece of gear you'll then farm 4 more weeks of tokens for to upgrade?

Or do you want to have to fight for the MOBs but get instant gratification?

They realized the predicament in EQ Live which is why Velious is one of the only expansions I can think of released for any MMORPG that didn't include a level cap increase, just additional content. Sure the Velious armor is BiS almost across the board but EQ was one of the few games that didn't completely devalue previous expansion content, at least through Velious. Velious was all about spreading people out and giving more raid targets. It's an entire new continent of 40+ content, 90% of it being max level type stuff.

People really should stop worrying about it. Velious will come. What we should worry about is 4 years after Velious is out...but by then they'll be plenty of time to think up an elegant solution.

[Yapas]

Originally Posted by ncapatina [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's good to be on the winning side, that will never change. But games nowadays don't want to deal with people raging so they instance content. EQ was a game designed around PVE competition. Look at the polls they are throwing up for EQN, they've specifically asked how much content they should instance.

It's a double edged sword...do you want instanced WoW style content where you farm badges and turn them in every 3-4 weeks (minimum) for a piece of gear you'll then farm 4 more weeks of tokens for to upgrade?

Or do you want to have to fight for the MOBs but get instant gratification?

They realized the predicament in EQ Live which is why Velious is one of the only expansions I can think of released for any MMORPG that didn't include a level cap increase, just additional content. Sure the Velious armor is BiS almost across the board but EQ was one of the few games that didn't completely devalue previous expansion content, at least through Velious. Velious was all about spreading people out and giving more raid targets. It's an entire new continent of 40+ content, 90% of it being max level type stuff.

People really should stop worrying about it. Velious will come. What we should worry about is 4 years after Velious is out...but by then they'll be plenty of time to think up an elegant solution.

It is not a question to be in the good "side" or not. If you really want to get some dragons, god etc, you should create or joining any guild with people who has the same goal as you and go.

[Nirgon]

Gabuk,

Does 1 guild getting almost everything, another guild getting a few things and a few guilds raiding planar set drops sound NOT classic to you?

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gabuk,

Does 1 guild getting almost everything, another guild getting a few things and a few guilds raiding planar set drops sound NOT classic to you?

I only played at the high end on two servers, RZ and SZ. Both of those were totally monopolized by a single guild/group. RZ was a little different as a group of guilds formed a raiding coalition, but that was more of a product of the PVP environment I think.

SZ had Ruin and then Hate. By the time I quit in PoP Hate was doing PoTime and there wasn't a single other guild who had made it to t2 gods yet. It was a total and complete monopoly.

Pretty much every evil guild was a feeder for Hate, and the neutral/good teams were locked into content they could faction burn Hate with, or taking out raid targets like Seru that Hate didn't give two shits about.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by ncapatina [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I only played at the high end on two servers, RZ and SZ. Both of those were totally monopolized by a single guild/group. RZ was a little different as a group of guilds formed a raiding coalition, but that was more of a product of the PVP environment I think.

SZ had Ruin and then Hate. By the time I quit in PoP Hate was doing PoTime and there wasn't a single other guild who had made it to t2 gods yet. It was a total and complete monopoly.

Pretty much every evil guild was a feeder for Hate, and the neutral/good teams were locked into content they could faction burn Hate with, or taking out raid targets like Seru that Hate didn't give two shits about.

yet 60% of red players did tour stormhammer for get loots and make aas then return lame red servers.

[ncapatina]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yet 60% of red players did tour stormhammer for get loots and make aas then return lame red servers.

That sorta proves my point. The 60% were the entire good/neutral team. The 40% who stayed were evils either trying to get into Hate or already in.

Hate had such a huge advantage because the rest of the team fell in line. Maybe it was the hard lines splitting the playerbase, but no other guild challenged them on their own team. It's not like you were going to put in a rotation with guilds on the other factions, you were going to do anything you could to stop it. EQ was never meant to have that kind of PVP, there were so many choke points - like keying up for VP for example. All Hate had to do was kill Trak first, PVP and stop another team or just train their asses which was legal on that server. They kept the server in permanent lockdown.

Allowing transfers to/from the legends server was the only way the majority of the server had any chance of getting loot.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by ncapatina [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That sorta proves my point. The 60% were the entire good/neutral team. The 40% who stayed were evils either trying to get into Hate or already in.

Hate had such a huge advantage because the rest of the team fell in line. Maybe it was the hard lines splitting the playerbase, but no other guild challenged them on their own team. It's not like you were going to put in a rotation with guilds on the other factions, you were going to do anything you could to stop it. EQ was never meant to have that kind of PVP, there were so many choke points - like keying up for VP for example. All Hate had to do was kill Trak first, PVP and stop another team or just train their asses which was legal on that server. They kept the server in permanent lockdown.

Allowing transfers to/from the legends server was the only way the majority of the server had any chance of getting loot.

lots of zekers applied europa mostly due to them cleansin armour drops in no time before TR leviathan or lame science of war vexare start moving.


Again once europa backflaged most TR applicants for coirnav rathe and beat quarm they plot with leviathan 2 top guild to flag block euros of xegony .

so there was alot of douchebaggery in any level of eq.

in solusek ro server more of the same

[Nirgon]

People who raided Kunark/Velious in PoP: Mad

People who raided Kunark/Velious in Kunark/Velious: understand

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who raided Kunark/Velious in PoP: Mad

People who raided Kunark/Velious in Kunark/Velious: understand

^^ This ^^

[Strifer]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People who raided Kunark/Velious in PoP: Mad

People who raided Kunark/Velious in Kunark/Velious: understand

ONLY 90's KIDS WILL UNDERSTAND!