So how about that Zimmerman trial?

[Malice_Mizer]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ofc any ruling is subject to appeal, but juries can do a lot more than they are told they can do.

The definition of "reasonable doubt" is also totally subjective. It always amazes me how strict "reasonable doubt" becomes in high-profile cases like this and Casey Anthony. People are sentenced to life in prison or death on much less evidence on a routine basis.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Malice_Mizer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The definition of "reasonable doubt" is also totally subjective. It always amazes me how strict "reasonable doubt" becomes in high-profile cases like this and Casey Anthony. People are sentenced to life in prison or death on much less evidence on a routine basis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_effect

[Malice_Mizer]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_effect

Capital!

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was summoned for jury duty once only. The judge explained that if they get evidence that points to guilt they MUST convict. So I asserted very loudly that that was absolutely not the case and that jurors can and should enter not guilty if they feel that someone has broken an unjust law.

I was quickly dismissed and I've never been summoned since.

HAVE SOME SENSE OF CIVIC DUTY, BRO ...

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

jury can do whatever the fuck they want. instructions are actually suggestions. a jury does not have to convict if they feel a person has broken an unjust law, and can convict if they are convinced outside the letter of the law.

They can do whatever they want, but they cannot force certain results no matter how badly they want them.

It's far from certain, but if the defense scores a few more big plays, be they procedural or evidentiary, it's very possible the judge could toss the case despite a guilty jury verdict.

[Hasbinbad]

well right they are only given certain options, but at every point of the process the jury can at least hang itself if not go against what is recommended by process

[Hasbinbad]

I was summoned for jury duty once only. The judge explained that if they get evidence that points to guilt they MUST convict. So I asserted very loudly that that was absolutely not the case and that jurors can and should enter not guilty if they feel that someone has broken an unjust law.

I was quickly dismissed and I've never been summoned since.

[Reapin]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was summoned for jury duty once only. The judge explained that if they get evidence that points to guilt they MUST convict. So I asserted very loudly that that was absolutely not the case and that jurors can and should enter not guilty if they feel that someone has broken an unjust law.

I was quickly dismissed and I've never been summoned since.

I too have used Jury Nullification to avoid jury duty. Works everytime. Waiting for a case for a pot conviction to let the person off.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was summoned for jury duty once only. The judge explained that if they get evidence that points to guilt they MUST convict. So I asserted very loudly that that was absolutely not the case and that jurors can and should enter not guilty if they feel that someone has broken an unjust law.

I was quickly dismissed and I've never been summoned since.

Good for you.

Haven't been called highly doubt I ever will

[Barkingturtle]

Personally, I never learn much of anything at my White-Privilege Anonymous meetings because it's pretty much just me pooping on the floor in the bathroom at Starbucks.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally, I never learn much of anything at my White-Privilege Anonymous meetings because it's pretty much just me pooping on the floor in the bathroom at Starbucks.

And you didn't even have to clean it up. That's privilege my friend.