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Old 05-10-2013, 12:03 PM
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theory of evolution

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a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation : abstract thought : speculation : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances —often used in the phrase in theory : "Darwin's theory of evolution"
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:08 PM
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First of all, it must be noted that the fossil record is for the most part incomplete. While it is true that there are some fossils that seem to indicate a gradual increase in sophistication and complexity of species over a long period of time, there are so many major gaps, it is impossible to use the fossil record as evidence.
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Mutations do occur. There is no dispute about that. But how do mutations account for the changes that take place from one species to another? In fact, genetic mutations and natural selection cannot begin to explain how even one, single protein or biological process could have "evolved".
Mutations occur within an individual, thus do not occur "between species."
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The "Theory of Evolution" states that small, gradual changes in the genetic code sometimes resulted in a beneficial adaptation for an organism of a particular species, and
since it now lived a little longer or a little better, it naturally would have more offspring, and its new and improved genes get passed along.
Mutations most often confer no benefit or harm, but rather become sections that simply aren't expressed or are expressed in a way that does not cause harm to the organism. Only in very rare cases are mutations either catastrophic or beneficial.
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So evidence for evolution MUST show how genes evolved, and how various anatomical structures came to be.
I don't understand this sentence at all. Why "must" "evolution" "show" anything? What are you even talking about?
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But again, there has never been even one experiment showing that a gene has evolved,
Oh, nevermind, you're just fucking dumb.
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or any anatomical structure or any physiological process, and instead of true, scientific evidence, the evolutionary scientists offer assumptions as to how they think that DNA or bones might have evolved.
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:09 PM
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theory of evolution

the·o·ry
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:11 PM
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:12 PM
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I don't understand this sentence at all. Why "must" "evolution" "show" anything? What are you even talking about?
Proof is what make me believe things. Like laws of motion and thermodynamics.
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:16 PM
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You do know that laws are not even "proven," right? They just describe phenomena that happens the same way evey time so we call it a law. There is no proof tho.
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:27 PM
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If you examine the evidence between a scientific law and a scientific theory, the evidence is going to be of similar caliber and scope.

You, like most people, are mistaking the laypersons term "theory" with "scientific theory." the two terms couldn't be more different. A "theory" is really more of a hypothesis. If it was the "hypothesis of common descent," you'd be right the fuck on. But it's not. The "hypothesis of common descent" now has a "body of evidence," and it has been "repeatedly confirmed" to be the likely mechanism for speciation in known species.

Do you know what scientists do? How they get famous in the community? I'm not talking about the one dude who came up with string theory, that's a given. I'm talking about scientist royalty. They get royal by disproving so many other scientists that their name becomes a by-word for the fear of failure. Scientists go around trying to find ways to make other scientists wrong.

And yet, despite all of the opposition you listed (I wasn't surprised when you posted that), and all the opposition that doesn't make it to the publishing table, common descent is still accepted by the MASSIVE majority of biological scientists - staunch contrarians all - and only grudgingly, because they have to. THAT is what makes it a theory.
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Old 05-10-2013, 12:50 PM
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I like how her armor doesn't have boobs.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:53 PM
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I've tried to get them to understand the difference between theory and scientific theory.. They won't get it.
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