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Old 03-01-2012, 09:32 PM
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They will then try to turn this into the TMO hates the server, and everyone should be against them argument.

Dont fall into their trap Jeremy!
Its already started even in the time it took me to post my comment!
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:34 PM
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Thanks for that insightful post sed.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:34 PM
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If you want to make sure VD doesn't get more than your version of "fair share of mobs", then beat us to them. Try and make sure VD gets zero. In this scenario, VD only gets as many Traks as they earn by beating you.
Such a proposal is out of the question. As I stated before, competition when it is only half of the time isn't real competition, in my opinion. It is a tailor-made handicap that benefits you and hinders us. It is not going to happen.

Furthermore I think having 50% of the mobs being open to competition after a set period of time is a further handicap since we generally crush you on the fast mobilize. Those two hours or whatever you have to prepare for that FFA is a relative advantage to you. I don't like it.

Vesica Dei, you are not going to get what you want in an agreement with us; all your proposals unfairly handicap our superiority that we wish to embrace. You are going to have to prove it, I think. But we can at least offer up one out of four mobs in the interest of the server here, can't we? Cmon guys, wouldn't it be awesome to pique the interest of a bunch of people and have that much more dynamic of an endgame raiding scene?

It is clear that we are at odds with regards to how much of a handicap you deserve. Surely, though, we can agree that it would be really fucking awesome to give our pals not in our guilds a chance even just to try out some of this content.

Cmon sluts, let's see it happen for 2 months. Let's see it happen for even just a month!
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:42 PM
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it was Rogean that forced TMO/IB to develop a rotation for VP.
As far as I am aware, this is untrue. While the first cycle on opening night was rotated, the subsequent rotation was voluntarily assented to by both sides. I remember quite a vigorous debate within TMO's ranks over whether or not to accept a rotation.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:42 PM
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We can hold our own over a month or 2. We can do it. We don't want to. And I can only hope that you don't want to. You'd be crazy to enjoy poopsocking.

How about
1. TMO
2. Open
3. Vd
4. Open
5. Open (minus VD/TMO)

This gives even more competition. Renew it on a monthly basis, if we can't get anything out of the open slots, then kill the rotation.

If you truly are as dominant as you say, you will get 3 a rotation to our 1.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:43 PM
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3/4 traks competed against with TMO vs VD

the 4th trak going to the server (excluding TMO and VD) regardless. If not killed within a certain time frame, they joint raid it and roll on the drops.


This gives the server other than TMO and VD a chance at a Bard epic no matter what.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:47 PM
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We can hold our own over a month or 2. We can do it. We don't want to. And I can only hope that you don't want to. You'd be crazy to enjoy poopsocking.

How about
1. TMO
2. Open
3. Vd
4. Open
5. Open (minus VD/TMO)

This gives even more competition. Renew it on a monthly basis, if we can't get anything out of the open slots, then kill the rotation.

If you truly are as dominant as you say, you will get 3 a rotation to our 1.
Poopsocking is fun! I prefer to call it an "alt advancement opportunity."

I don't like your rotation, though, for reasons I have already stated above. It yields too much.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:54 PM
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A point of view from indifferent observer:

IMHO, this discussion has hit a dead end.

The TMO CLEARLY believes they are stronger (and probably with a good reason), and will not agree to any rotation that would diminish their potential raid opportunities, other than out of occasional charity.

VD on other hand simply need to muster up a force to race TMO to targets couple dozen times and actually win those fights, before TMO agrees to listen to anything VD has to say.

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Old 03-01-2012, 09:58 PM
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Yeah basically once they start losing, bring on the rotation. Its all i could get out of this thread.
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:08 PM
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This thread has strayed so far, there's not much point.

But I'll say this: the 2 times I dragged a train to a TMO raid both worked. One was while you were prepping, and one was on a Hoshkar attempt. Mem blur is certainly not necessary, just easier.
Myuharin, how many times would you have done this if you hadn't gotten killed by us (and yourself) a bunch of times?
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