Discussion: +/- 8 Levels, Dynamic - Page 23

Softcore PK · #**221** 10-03-2011, 11:33 PM

It was 8 level range on VZ and TZ, 4 on RZ and SZ was any level.

Macedon · #**222** 10-04-2011, 03:22 PM

level range should be +/-4 or 5 imo, you really stand no chance against someone that is 8 levels higher than you...

Softcore PK · #**223** 10-04-2011, 03:23 PM

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level range should be +/-4 or 5 imo, you really stand no chance against someone that is 8 levels higher than you...

You do if you catch them at the right time. It does happen :P

Macedon · #**224** 10-04-2011, 03:34 PM

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You do if you catch them at the right time. It does happen :P

yea but how often does that time come around, most of the time your guna see level 20 mages rolling around CB pking level 12s thinking they iz hot shit, at least at level 16 they only have 1 higher spell set to use against you.

perhaps we can have a system in place where the level range increases as you level up, +/- 4 until level 20, than it becomes +/- 6 until level 30, than +/- 8? hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Softcore PK · #**225** 10-04-2011, 03:35 PM

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yea but how often does that time come around, most of the time your guna see level 20 mages rolling around CB pking level 12s thinking they iz hot shit, at least at level 16 they only have 1 higher spell set to use against you.

PvP is good for you imo. Maybe when you're level 24 or so, you'll come to CB to pk the bad guys and be a hero among elves!

Macedon · #**226** 10-04-2011, 03:41 PM

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PvP is good for you imo. Maybe when you're level 24 or so, you'll come to CB to pk the bad guys and be a hero among elves!

im not saying it isnt good, it just seems like useless griefing lol... i've been pking everyone i come across on my bard on beta, and most of the time they are blue/lightblue/green, and stand no chance (i honestly fought 3 light blues and made them all zone dance...), tbh, i can deal with it either way, but it seems like 4 or 5 w ould be better.

Softcore PK · #**227** 10-04-2011, 03:47 PM

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im not saying it isnt good, it just seems like useless griefing lol... i've been pking everyone i come across on my bard on beta, and most of the time they are blue/lightblue/green, and stand no chance... tbh, i can deal with it either way, but it seems like 4 or 5 would be better.

Well, bards are overpowered in pvp anyway. You're bound to win most of the time, in 1v1. Useless griefing has its place, you know. 4 or 5 limit would be far too limiting.. PvP would happen a lot less if the level range was reduced.

Of course, with this dynamic system, it may not be as big of a deal as on live.. idk!

mimixownzall · #**228** 10-05-2011, 05:10 AM

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4 or 5 limit would be far too limiting.. PvP would happen a lot less if the level range was reduced.

Yes, it would happen less, but you would also have a lot more challenging PvP. Right now, it is people running around killing light blues while avoiding anyone dark blue or higher. What fun is that? I guess it's fun for the girlies who are too afraid to fight anyone they might lose to.

8 levels can cover 2 spell levels. lvl 39 vs lvl 31 - basically lvl 39 spells vs lvl 29 spells. That is huge spell wise.

Softcore PK · #**229** 10-05-2011, 05:16 AM

I really do not understand the problem. Were you expecting to not kill you when given the opportunity? Did you expect every fight to be fair? This is war, not dueling on a blue server.

You're gonna die, lots. We all are. Is it that big of a problem?

mimixownzall · #**230** 10-05-2011, 05:48 AM

No, in war you have at least two defined factions/nations etc. This is not war, this is.. anarchy?

Since I have to spell it out:

The problem is the huge disparity between levels combined with the fact that you can cause someone to lose exp and their money while not having any chance of defending themselves.

You know why SZ worked with its rules set? There was no real incentive to killing lowbies. The only reason to repeatedly kill lowbies is if they were twinks and you wanted to draw out some higher levels. The real incentive was to fight those who were within 5 levels of you. You could loot them and get insignias and cause them to lose exp.

Here? Well if you can kill light blues who have no real chance of defending themselves and easily defeat them while taking their cash and causing them to lose exp, why ever fight anyone your level, or who can kill you? The smart people will do that. Unfortunately I have this really handicapping sense of honor and can't bring myself to do it. I really wish I could, but when I do it, I seriously feel bad IRL about it. There is just no fun out of owning someone who you know has no chance of killing you (for me anyways).

I could do this on SZ... I think it was because of the teams aspect. It truly did feel like war; kill or be killed; fuck those other bastards. I guess I just like having who my enemies are more defined.