Iksar Shaman - Solo Challenges?

[Troxx]

In a rapidly changing world characterized by so much uncertainty …

I suppose we can take comfort in some things always being predictable.

DSM will always be DSM and threads that bear his namesake will always be entertaining.

We call these “DSM threads” for a reason

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[bcbrown]

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Wow he looks strange with a beard.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In a rapidly changing world characterized by so much uncertainty …

I suppose we can take comfort in some things always being predictable.

DSM will always be DSM and threads that bear his namesake will always be entertaining.

We call these “DSM threads” for a reason

This poor attempt at lying is just so sad. Unfortunately for you, someone calls all of the threads that are being objectively trolled by multiple posters (including yourself) "DSM Threads". The common denominator among these threads is posters like yourself clearly trolling with silly gifs, calling people autistic, etc. You won't find a "DSM Thread" that you are not a part of. All of these "DSM Threads" have clear trolling behavior from yourself as well.

Please keep making yourself look worse.

Readers of the thread will note that Troxx still cannot answer a basic question:

"Why would a Shaman use Vindi BP at all if Fungi Tunic is better than Vindi BP"?

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The common denominator among these threads is posters like yourself clearly trolling with silly gifs, calling people autistic, etc.

The common denominator is DSM having more posts than the next 3-4 people combined. That's what makes it a DSM Thread.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The common denominator is DSM having more posts than the next 3-4 people combined. That's what makes it a DSM Thread.

You seem to forget that multiple posters reply to me. Me responding to multiple people simultaneously is the only reason why I have more posts. If you add up the people replying to me, I have less total posts.

This is just another silly attempt at discrediting people, because that is the only way you can win an argument. It is very sad that people have to resort to such silly tactics because they cannot admit they may be incorrect.

The only common denominator with "DSM Threads" is the same exact troll posters responding with the same troll tactics. Unfortunately you cannot hide the post history, and plenty of examples are now available.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The common denominator is DSM having more posts than the next 3-4 people combined. That's what makes it a DSM Thread.

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(Amongst other things)

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(Amongst other things)

Thank you for continuing to show you are just a troll. Sadly you couldn't actually stop being a troll for more than one post. It's very easy to see the vast majority of your posts in this thread are silly gifs, nonsense, and a sad post that is a fake medical diagnosis about me. Claiming everybody who disagrees with you is autistic is a poor tactic.

Readers of the thread will note that Troxx still cannot answer a basic question:

"Why would a Shaman use Vindi BP at all if Fungi Tunic is better than Vindi BP"?

This is because Troxx understands that once he explains it, he will support my conclusions. There is a reason why people generally agree that Vindi BP is BiS, and not Fungi Tunic.

FSI is the Min/Max option for Shamans. Regeneration is better while leveling, but Min/Max does not take leveling into account. There is nothing wrong with picking a Shaman race other than Ogre. You'll do fine regardless.

[Troxx]

Fungi vs Vindi bp at 60 after torpor has no bearing on FSI vs racial regen at levels 1-59 or at 60 with torpor.

FSI is not a Vindi BP.

No false equivalency arguments please.

Vindi BP has palpable potential benefits that are clearly defined. It gives a clearly defined boost to ac, hp, stats, and resists. Globally? A strong case can be made that 13 more regen (the fungi) is better than the stats resist. After torpor a case could be made that Vindi bp is globally better. Both stances have merit but most shamans I know simply sold their fungi to buy other things or passed it down to alts after they got torpor.

For me? When I got torpor I gave my fungi to my alt and am using a thurg chain bp. Not that thurg is better but my monk wanted a fungi and I’m poor.

I made that tradeoff and I was fine after it. I WOULD NOT trade racial regen for FSI.

But a Vindi BP is not FSI.

Sorry man, you gotta make the case that a 25% chance to be bashed every 8 seconds on an unslowed mob (far less frequent otherwise) … and with the acknowledgements that most of those bashes won’t result in a stun …

You have to make the argument that THAT benefit (rare though it is) outweighs permanent racial regen over the entire course of your characters life.

So far you just have not done that.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After torpor a case could be made that Vindi bp is globally better. Both stances have merit but most shamans I know simply sold their fungi to buy other things or passed it down to alts after they got torpor.

Exactly. Thank you for agreeing that Vindi BP can be globally better. Thank you for agreeing that you've seen the pattern of Torpor Shamans picking Vindi BP over Fungi Tunic. If most people agreed that passive regeneration was better at level 60 with Torpor, you wouldn't see this trend.

The logic used to explain why Vindi BP is better is the same logic used to explain why FSI is better:

"The random chance to reduce a damage spike is superior to consistent minor passive regeneration on a Torpor Shaman".

There is no false equivalency between Vindi BP and FSI. If passive Regeneration provided more benefit than a random chance to reduce a damage spike, Torpor Shamans would be keeping their Fungi Tunics. Remember that Torpor Shamans are willing to give up 13 passive regeneration to get a random chance at reducing a damage spike through Vindi BP. It's not a stretch to say that they would give up 8 passive regeneration for the same thing through FSI. There is no real way to determine how much Vindi BP is actually helping over Fungi Tunic, but people seem to reach the same consensus that Vindi BP is better.

Thank you for answering the question. As you can see, the trolling wasn't necessary.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry man, you gotta make the case that a 25% chance to be bashed every 8 seconds on an unslowed mob (far less frequent otherwise) … and with the acknowledgements that most of those bashes won’t result in a stun …

You have to make the argument that THAT benefit (rare though it is) outweighs permanent racial regen over the entire course of your characters life.

So far you just have not done that.