Shadow knight aggro

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Feel free to use taunt and don't worry about a missed taunt here and there. That's what I am saying.

Could that be summarized as "if you like pressing the button, don't worry about suboptimal behavior because there's a minimal impact"?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Could that be summarized as "if you like pressing the button, don't worry about suboptimal behavior because there's a minimal impact"?

That is somewhat close, but it misses some nuance that I think is important to fully understand the concept.

A summary would look more like:

"The opportunity cost of missing a single taunt is minimal due to the unreliable nature of taunt and it's 6 second cooldown. Switching between spamming taunt and using taunt strategically costs you a single taunt in the worst case. Therefore, do not be afraid to press the taunt button for fear of a missed taunt."

[bcbrown]

How about "if you like pressing the button, don't worry about suboptimal behavior because there's a minimal impact. If the content requires optimal behavior the switching cost is minimally low"?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How about "if you like pressing the button, don't worry about suboptimal behavior because there's a minimal impact. If the content requires optimal behavior the switching cost is minimally low"?

That is closer. But I still prefer mine:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"The opportunity cost of missing a single taunt is minimal due to the unreliable nature of taunt and it's 6 second cooldown. Switching between spamming taunt and using taunt strategically costs you a single taunt in the worst case. Therefore, do not be afraid to press the taunt button for fear of a missed taunt."

It is important to mention that the cost of missing a single taunt is always minimal, regardless of how you are using taunt. This is due to taunt's unreliable nature. That is the key to this concept. You are only losing a single taunt in the worst case (assuming you didn't happen to press taunt at the right time) when switching between strategies, therefore it isn't the end of the world if you choose to spam taunt.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Umm sorry mate. DSM will never agree to that.
You must be new here.
We still have many pages of "no im not you are" to go. Multiple uses of the words factually and math and the terms stop trolling! I have faith in you and stop giving newbies Le bad info. You see, hes just trying to save us all.

This is from page 18.

[bcbrown]

Ok, I can accept your wording, although I'll provide a final update of my wording to hopefully make it closer: ""if you like pressing the button, don't worry about suboptimal behavior because there's a minimal impact, a single unreliable taunt."

I want to go back to the post of yours that you have been using as your initial description of your position:

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are also "wasting" taunt by not using it. Taunt has a fast enough cooldown to where it can be spammed, and then used more strategically when necessary. The main benefit to spamming taunt is you can get hate back instantly if it happens to be timed right, and you don't have to think about it. This frees up your brain to focus on other things.

Someone is describing an approach that you have not contested being more-optimal than your approach, and you reply by saying "try this less-optimal approach". By using the word "wasting" you're implicitly criticizing their approach.

Usually I contest your aspects of your position through math and logic. Here I'm commenting on tone. Can you see how it's, uh, a little provocative to, in response to a description of someone using an optimal approach, say "here's a less-optimal approach"?

If that's not the message you wanted to convey, can you reflect for a moment on why the message received is not the message intended, and whether there's a way to change the conveyance of the message in a way that makes it less possible to be interpreted so provocatively?

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is from page 18.

Don Quixote had his windmills. I too enjoy tilting. Maybe this time!

[bcbrown]

Apologies for the triple-post, but I'd like propose to you some different words to engage the topic in the very first post, and I'd rather not make such a substantive edit. Look at the difference in tone between the actual post you made and this hypothetical:

"You're right that optimal play is to avoid having taunt on cooldown if/when you lose aggro, but I think you're overstating the impact. The opportunity cost of missing a single taunt is minimal due to the unreliable nature of taunt and it's 6 second cooldown. Switching between spamming taunt and using taunt strategically costs you a single taunt in the worst case. Therefore, do not be afraid to press the taunt button for fear of a missed taunt."

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that's not the message you wanted to convey, can you reflect for a moment on why the message received is not the message intended, and whether there's a way to change the conveyance of the message in a way that makes it less possible to be interpreted so provocatively?

I think everybody can improve, including myself. I am far from the most provocative poster in this thread, however.

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol you should never ever just spam taunt. At all.

Originally Posted by Guesty07 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wahhhh everybody is a troll except me wahhhhhh

The tone in these posts are certainly worse than the tone in my posts, for example.

The question is: why do you ignore the bad behavior of every other poster? If you are concerned about tone being an issue, most of the posters in this thread need to improve themselves more than I.

[Gloomlord]

DSM, you think faux-politeness hides the tone of your posts? You are sorely mistaken...