KWSM moving the bar

[Bach]

[QUOTE=Nirgon;3254799
The system offered has been exposed as a fraud.

Green (not specifically ST) allows for open raiding. There's no games, gimmicks or moving goal posts. You show up and roll on items. You can even ask to be the person who pulls or tanks if you seem able.[/QUOTE]

Open raiding isn't the same as rotating.

People reading the UN know ST leadership blocked any attempt at a fait rotation of content, which some of you guys label as welfare.

The fact that you guys want to take part in it is is hypocritical.

Beside you guys clearly abandonned blue server to ruin green server, people know this and you cannot blame them for not letting you back in with how toxic you've shown you can be on green.

You reap what you sow.

Much kudos to galach.

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by Bach [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Open raiding isn't the same as rotating.

People reading the UN know ST leadership blocked any attempt at a fait rotation of content, which some of you guys label as welfare.

The fact that you guys want to take part in it is is hypocritical.

Beside you guys clearly abandonned blue server to ruin green server, people know this and you cannot blame them for not letting you back in with how toxic you've shown you can be on green.

You reap what you sow.

Much kudos to galach.

/thread.

[Nirgon]

Where did this double dipping shit come from.

A bunch of us dug up our old blue chars to practice competing for Velious mobs.

I've seen this bogus alt guild narrative on green. Makes me wonder if there's some dots to connect. It is fraudulent and scummy.

Spend more time being inviting and less time rigging your rule system. Maybe your friendly open environment narrative will hold up better if ya do. It is currently in shambles

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

You can blame twochainz for the double dipping response as he said in a previous post that ST is just a bunch of frag/riot/kittens etc alts... the GMs have said they don't want farm crews or ALT guilds popping up for the drafts... if your not a bunch of blue alts this shouldn't be an issue

[regandna]

Originally Posted by MarauderOHHYEAH [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can blame twochainz for the double dipping response as he said in a previous post that ST is just a bunch of frag/riot/kittens etc alts... the GMs have said they don't want farm crews or ALT guilds popping up for the drafts... if your not a bunch of blue alts this shouldn't be an issue

I am following your logic, but it is BS. What is Lighthouse then? An accumulation of mainly alts or mains from other raid guilds? And Aegis has a shit ton of members in Riot. Namely from their Europa side. So that logic is flawed my friend.

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

Originally Posted by regandna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am following your logic, but it is BS. What is Lighthouse then? An accumulation of mainly alts or mains from other raid guilds? And Aegis has a shit ton of members in Riot. Namely from their Europa side. So that logic is flawed my friend.

The logic is not flawed... it just needs to be enforced equally for all entities

[Nirgon]

We've competed for Vindi and won. We met the criteria. We are interested in getting some practice on Velious targets. Playing TLP or another p99 server (beta or live) has nothing to do with this and is the crux of this whole stupid oppositional argument.

[MarauderOHHYEAH]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We've competed for Vindi and won. We met the criteria. We are interested in getting some practice on Velious targets. Playing TLP or another p99 server (beta or live) has nothing to do with this and is the crux of this whole stupid oppositional argument.

So your all experienced blue raiders but you need practice on velious targets? Does this not make sense to anyone else?

[7thGate]

I know Artelius at least was at one point working a plan that I strongly suspect would have a decent chance of executing a 10 man gore. Of course, when he was active with Aegis, it didn't really matter because we can't actually get a gore FTE. I would be both impressed and relatively unsurprised if Seal Team could execute that. If you gave them an open shot with a day to try different stuff out and made that the pass criteria for draft entrance, I can think of multiple approaches that might work and I bet they could pull one off.

On a tangent, I would love to see a low man gorenaire competition some day actually, where groups bid a number of people and the lowest bid gets to try first until someone succeeds. It would be interesting to see what people try.

[xdrcfrx]

Originally Posted by 7thGate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On a tangent, I would love to see a low man gorenaire competition some day actually, where groups bid a number of people and the lowest bid gets to try first until someone succeeds. It would be interesting to see what people try.

This sounds fun AF. Creative thought!