Velious99UI - Green Server UI - Feedback/Bugs/Discussion

[Jibartik]

I mean wish we could force it down xer0s throat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[soronil]

In the spirit of being more constructive, I have added some to the wiki.

Basically, I beleive before people try messing with background colors, they should first try different resolution settings. I have added some screen shots to illustrate:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Green_U....2F_UI_scaling

I have also added a new page illutrating the differences between 4:3 and 16:9 aspect rations and using /viewport.
https://wiki.project1999.com/Viewport

The problem is that the people who will come here and create new threads complaining without reading existing posts are also unlikely to find this on the wiki. Perhaps if it gets bad enough a sticky on the forums for "Green UI tips / suggestions" could be useful.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by soronil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point was that it just doesn't contribute anything and actually makes the forums harder to use (fewer meaningful posts per page).

Fun story: a few years ago Rogean tried to upgrade the forum software to a new version. That's it, just a version upgrade ... the place EXPLODED! People wigged out hard (certainly harder than they have over Green Beta UI).

That story explains both why we still run old forum software here, and just how likely you are to change our forum culture [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Stuff like that, or the weird need here to have a 9/11 conspiracy-themed option in every forum poll ... you can fight it, but it's better to just embrace it. One of us, one of us!

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Originally Posted by soronil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyway, in the spirit of being more constructive, I have added some to the wiki.

Now you're speaking my language.

Originally Posted by soronil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Basically, I beleive before people try messing with background colors, they should first try different resolution settings. I have added some screen shots to illustrate:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Green_U....2F_UI_scaling

I have also added a new page illutrating the differences between 4:3 and 16:9 aspect rations and using /viewport.
https://wiki.project1999.com/Viewport

The problem is that the people who will come here and create new threads complaining without reading existing posts are also unlikely to find this on the wiki. Perhaps if it gets bad enough a sticky on the forums for "Green UI tips / suggestions" could be useful.

This is awesome. I 100% agree that the best thing we can do is educate people, both on why things are the way they are (classic!) and what their options are to make things the best they can be on Green.

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by Wenai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is the primary problem using that Stone UI.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...5&postcount=26

I saw your post and this is a problem but even you said it could be fixed however thats not what I asked I asked if we could take the stone ui/classic ui that people have gotten 100% working on p99 before we were forced to use this ui. http://p99.yourfirefly.com/downloads/classic1.3.jpg I know cause I used to use this ui on p99 before I switched to duxa now also what I asked was couldnt you use just use that code from that ui and tweak it to how you all want? theres nothing wrong with this ui it works on p99 why fix something that isnt broke? and before anyone says but zekay you sound like you dont care about the current ui I do I have tweaked it to my own liking. also if you dont like that one you could always tweak the code with this one https://www.eqinterface.com/download...fo.php?id=4726

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fun story: a few years ago Rogean tried to upgrade the forum software to a new version. That's it, just a version upgrade ... the place EXPLODED! People wigged out hard (certainly harder than they have over Green Beta UI).

I remember this was crazy

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Zekayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I saw your post and this is a problem but even you said it could be fixed however thats not what I asked I asked if we could take the stone ui/classic ui that people have gotten 100% working on p99 before we were forced to use this ui. http://p99.yourfirefly.com/downloads/classic1.3.jpg I know cause I used to use this ui on p99 before I switched to duxa now also what I asked was couldnt you use just use that code from that ui and tweak it to how you all want? theres nothing wrong with this ui it works on p99 why fix something that isnt broke? and before anyone says but zekay you sound like you dont care about the current ui I do I have tweaked it to my own liking. also if you dont like that one you could always tweak the code with this one https://www.eqinterface.com/download...fo.php?id=4726

I can't speak at all for the UI team or R&N, but I think the core issue is ... Green = classic! Those UIs aren't as close to classic as the current Green UI is.

But look, actual classic had two UI modes right, stone and transparent? The staff was going to make us use just their ghetto transparent version. Then the volunteers stepped up, and we got a much more accurate/classic UI.

All that is awesome, but even so it doesn't mean it's the end. Maybe R&N will decide they want Green players to have an option, and they'll authorize the building of an alternate "stone" UI, then let people /loaduiskin either one.

Or maybe they won't. But if you want to convince R&N, I would imagine the best way to get that ball rolling would be to find ways to make whatever UI you think would be perfect for green more classic (until it's as classic as possible).

[Jibartik]

P99 is not in the business of steeling other peoples work and hacking it up and implementing it on their own server.

We will create our own custom UI that is fully created under the intention of it being a part of P99.

Eventually it will be the most classic titanium everquest UI ever created. But until then, we are still behind some other projects. As this one was started about 4 weeks ago [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 is not in the business of steeling other peoples work and hacking it up and implementing it on their own server.

We will create our own custom UI that is fully created under the intention of it being a part of P99.

Eventually it will be the most classic titanium everquest UI ever created. But until then, we are still behind some other projects. As this one was started about 4 weeks ago [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

of course I didnt mean steal it but you could message the devs of that said ui and ask them to use it then tweak the code and boom you have a 100% working stone ui

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can't speak at all for the UI team or R&N, but I think the core issue is ... Green = classic! Those UIs aren't as close to classic as the current Green UI is.

But look, actual classic had two UI modes right, stone and transparent? The staff was going to make us use just their ghetto transparent version. Then the volunteers stepped up, and we got a much more accurate/classic UI.

All that is awesome, but even so it doesn't mean it's the end. Maybe R&N will decide they want Green players to have an option, and they'll authorize the building of an alternate "stone" UI, then let people /loaduiskin either one.

Or maybe they won't. But if you want to convince R&N, I would imagine the best way to get that ball rolling would be to find ways to make whatever UI you think would be perfect for green more classic (until it's as classic as possible).

did you even click on those ui's? they are the stone ui as best as it can be because of the titanium client. now having that said if they p99 devs and volunteers could get permission to use these uis and tweak it then you have a 100% working stone ui also it wouldnt be a bad idea to let the people have a choice between the two both are nostaligic and both are 100% classic,but lets face it some people dont like the transparent one. so why not let people have a choice? For the record I am happy with the velious ui but cant we all just come to a happy medium? meet in the middle you know? have options for players.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Zekayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

of course I didnt mean steal it but you could message the devs of that said ui and ask them to use it then tweak the code and boom you have a 100% working stone ui

I did.

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Originally Posted by Zekayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the record I am happy with the velious ui but cant we all just come to a happy medium?

We did.

[El-Hefe]

Originally Posted by dussle27 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I play at 2560 x 1440 and I have zero issues with the UI it's damn beautiful. I suspect that most of you people kicking and screaming should consider LASIK. Great work to everyone involved!

Or just like... an updated glasses prescription? I have absolutely terrible vision, but I have no problem with the UI.

I imagine the people having trouble with the UI are old timers that have had the same prescription for half a decade and have to constantly squint just to get through their day.

Buy some new glasses grandpa.