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Old 07-09-2015, 11:42 PM
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Yeah some business papers telling us that this energy transition thing would hurt their bottom line, breaking news at 11
Articles like that exist all over the web, that was the first one I happened to choose. If you're simply going to ignore the actual factual content then you are part of the problem. The 97% claim was clearly meant to shock, and the way the number was reached was bogus. You can bet most people never looked beyond the 97% consensus number and just parroted it back to their friends without actually looking deeper.

I first got interested in climate change after watching "An Inconvenient Truth" with my girlfriend, it was her homework assignment years ago. Honestly I hadn't payed much attention to any of the science beforehand and after watching that movie it had me a bit alarmed. However I never take anything at face value without digging a bit deeper, and eventually realized that most of it was propoganda. The more I researched and dug, the more of a skeptic I became.

All I'm saying is that every person should explore both sides of the argument and come to their own conclusion and not "pick a side" and dismiss everything else.
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Old 07-09-2015, 11:45 PM
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Theres no side to pick, im not going try to research the side of people who claim that the earth is flat, either
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Old 07-10-2015, 12:23 AM
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Theres no side to pick, im not going try to research the side of people who claim that the earth is flat, either
So you're basically admitting that you aren't going to bother searching for the actual truth, but will just stick with what you've decided is truth regardless if it is or not.

Also your "world is flat" analogy is ironic. It was the skeptics that suggested the world was in fact not flat while the "consensus" held firmly that it was. We all know who won that argument.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:00 AM
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Lol exagerrated.
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Old 07-10-2015, 01:46 AM
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Old 07-10-2015, 12:03 PM
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lol you guys are more interested in "winning" against me more than the issues, slathar especially. Slathar would rather spread the notion that the climate isnt affected by CO2 than missing a chance to get back at me. The point of the El Salvador example was that its already hot as fuck down there and they cant really deal with a 2-5 degree increase in temperature.
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Old 07-10-2015, 04:22 PM
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lol you guys are more interested in "winning" against me more than the issues, slathar especially. Slathar would rather spread the notion that the climate isnt affected by CO2 than missing a chance to get back at me. The point of the El Salvador example was that its already hot as fuck down there and they cant really deal with a 2-5 degree increase in temperature.
Whether or not they can deal with it has no bearing on the discussion. The climate is cyclical and has been for billions of years. Whether humans are on the planet or not, the geographical location of El Salvador will warm and cool without humans in the equation.

You also obviously didn't read some of the links above. The earth hasn't been on a warming trend since 1997, yet our C02 levels have skyrocketed in that time period. Meaning C02 itself doesn't influence the climate as much as was once believed. Ie; Activist scientists are desperately trying to come up with "reasons". Fact is, we don't understand yet. The climate is extremely complex and factors outside of our planet also play a role. It is foolish, and downright irresponsible to attempt to make any drastic changes to our way of life until we actually understand our place in the equation. We may end up doing more harm than good.

Also I don't think Ulth was saying a mass extinction of man, by man is good. I beleive he was saying from a statistical standpoint that another mass extinction is immenent.
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Old 07-10-2015, 04:32 PM
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lol you guys are more interested in "winning" against me more than the issues, slathar especially. Slathar would rather spread the notion that the climate isnt affected by CO2 than missing a chance to get back at me. The point of the El Salvador example was that its already hot as fuck down there and they cant really deal with a 2-5 degree increase in temperature.
I care about as much about "winning" against you as I do winning a tennis match against Stephan Hawking. I was simply pointing out that nobody is going to want to have this discussion that you're so desperate to have when you repeatedly show that you believe in mistaken information based on very dubious sources. So either start adding a little research to your process of forming an opinion, or stop complaining when people don't want to discuss topics with a child.
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Old 07-10-2015, 08:11 PM
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Winter is coming...

And the plot thickens.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...s-plummet.html

Unlike global warming alarmist pseudo-science, the maunder minimum is real science and has been observed and studied for hundreds of years and was the likely cause of the mini ice age that happened in the 1600's. Still, the prediction has been based on a model which can always be wrong. Regardless, this model is apparently far more accurate up to this point than anything the global warming alarmists have been able to fabricate so if I had to place a bet on which to trust, I'll go with this one. There is actual data to support the theory.

Quick everyone, buy an SUV with a V8, leave your lights on, double your meat intake and light your fireplace even in the summer. We need to prepare for the end!!!!!!!!!
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