Lock Server Until an Agreement is Met

[Aaron]

You guys argued about pixel distribution on New Years Eve?

Nice.

[baramur]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As it should be, as you're kinda the reason we are here. You know you are going in losing mobs. You're just thinking you've given enough when, given the scope of this agreement, it isn't even close.

Entitlement issues. Damn kids.

And you think you are entitled to a certain number of raid mobs, because you play on this server. Love how entitlement word is thrown around only on the big guilds, they arent entitled to shit, but if they faster and kill mobs they earned it. Why not just ask rogean to instance everything, thats all you want. You want no challenge.

[Splorf22]

Everyone in TMO/FE/IB should go back a few pages and read Rogean's comments, and then seriously reconsider whether you guys are in a position to dictate terms to the server. Hint: you aren't.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone in TMO/FE/IB should go back a few pages and read Rogean's comments, and then seriously reconsider whether you guys are in a position to dictate terms to the server. Hint: you aren't.

Sirken's response to someone who sounds basically exactly like you.

Why should we capitulate? We lose very little by the extended raid suspension, you are suggesting the agreements are actually pretty close, and you are in the minority.

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this is absolutely the wrong way to be thinking. it is selfish, it is short sighted, and it is immature as fuck. stop thinking about your self and start thinking about whats best for THE SERVER. that means ALL current guilds (yes even the ones you hate), and it means to plan for future players and guilds that may not yet even play here. but if the bit i quoted is really your stance, then you have no business in these talks.

the staff has been and will continue to monitor progress on these discussions. and we reserve the right to do absolutely anything imaginable (or unimaginable), as we see for the betterment of the server's future moving forward.

[Splorf22]

Hitpoint, this is what I was trying to emphasize:

Originally Posted by Rogean

You guys are forgetting you are a minority. The server does NOT revolve around the raid guilds and who gets dragon pixels.

and as for this:

Originally Posted by Sirken

stop thinking about your self and start thinking about whats best for THE SERVER. that means ALL current guilds (yes even the ones you hate), and it means to plan for future players and guilds that may not yet even play here.

I honestly believe that Divinity's plan is a nearly perfect compromise for the server. If you do not think so, its probably because you haven't thought it through. FE and TMO will each be guaranteed about 7% of all spawns via the rotation PLUS have 60% or more of spawns be FFA. Depending on how aggressively you 'compete' during your weeks off you could easily get 70% of all targets. If you do not think that's enough, then reread Sirken's quote again.

[Gwence]

just ban TMO completely and I bet the server comes to an agreement within 20 minutes

[DrKvothe]

Originally Posted by Gwence [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just ban TMO completely and I bet the server comes to an agreement within 20 minutes

Ban TMO from all contested spawns other than VP.

[MasterKiljaedon]

You need to consider how top heavy this server is with 60's. I know people in the high end raid guilds with alts sprinkled to the lower guilds that raid on their sky nights. I believe a list needs to be made to identify one primary raid toon you can raid with and not your alts. The staff needs to compile a list and anyone raiding out side their main without swapping names on the list gets banned from raiding. Th would alleviate some congestion and reduce the poopsocking alt armies.

[Sinestria]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hitpoint, this is what I was trying to emphasize:



and as for this:



I honestly believe that Divinity's plan is a nearly perfect compromise for the server. If you do not think so, its probably because you haven't thought it through. FE and TMO will each be guaranteed about 7% of all spawns via the rotation PLUS have 60% or more of spawns be FFA. Depending on how aggressively you 'compete' during your weeks off you could easily get 70% of all targets. If you do not think that's enough, then reread Sirken's quote again.

I could see why you would endorse this proposal, but I think randoming off all mobs for two weeks is kinda silly. I really believe that a bag limit system would be best for all.

[JayN]

p99 casual's and Mac'ers only please.

What about whats fair to euros no one gives a fuck about them!

TBH the majority of the server doesnt and wont even raid. So im not even sure what this all has to do with the majority of the server.

If it is majority rules you should just ban anyone who has more then 100hrs vested in an account because that of not the kind of behaviors that you want to see on p99!

Why dont GM staff add incentives to something rather then just challenge end game guilds with threats.

I dont understand this hands off approach they claim but then come in threatening gloom and doom when all their demands are not met, which im not even sure what all their demands are even!