Dragon/Raid Mob Kills

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dolic,

This argument has shaky foundations. If your pull was 12 minutes, or 15 minutes, would you still say honor the FTE shout?

The FTE shout has nothing to do with kiting; it was implemented for gaggle fuck contested encounters like VS, Trak, CT, etc. To the extent that a mob is engaged, the FTE should loses its relevance in considering the time-frame necessary or required for this mob to be taken to camp.

Yes you honor the FTE shout, and you run Fraps. Also, Derubael was in zone during this pull. Derp

[Tanthallas]

Regardless of intent, this is clearly a kite.

A major problem with how things are handled is adding subjective elements like intent. A time standard should be agreed upon and enforced.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regardless of intent, this is clearly a kite.

A major problem with how things are handled is adding subjective elements like intent. A time standard should be agreed upon and enforced.

Dude it is already stated that you pull shit directly to the camp, and if you don't know how, you shouldn't pull.

It's all the same bullshit they always do and its just sad and boring.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude it is already stated that you pull shit directly to the camp, and if you don't know how, you shouldn't pull.

It's all the same bullshit they always do and its just sad and boring.

^ even when we take direct pulls it's still a kite, then TMO desperately needs to kite to get to Zerg numbers ... Smh

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regardless of intent, this is clearly a kite.

A major problem with how things are handled is adding subjective elements like intent. A time standard should be agreed upon and enforced.

No this is a kite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKpxLpVL2A

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I seem to remember rogean ruled this as a non kite tho. LOL you didn't complain much about this one.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No this is a kite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKpxLpVL2A

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I seem to remember rogean ruled this as a non kite tho. LOL you didn't complain much about this one.

sun was not up.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by maverixdamighty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sun was not up.

Couldnt see the moss on the trees.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No this is a kite.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdKpxLpVL2A

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I seem to remember rogean ruled this as a non kite tho. LOL you didn't complain much about this one.

This was dealt with and FE got the loot back; the bard suspended for this was unsuspended. I still have the petition wherein Ephi initially suspended my bard and took the loot only to have Sirken overrule this and unsuspend my bard and return the loot. I can post the results, but I would prefer to have GM permission before doing this.

The reason this was ruled a non-kite was:

1. You did not have a sufficient force in zone to claim that you were ready to engage and we did;
2. It was still, regardless of path, within a perfectly reasonable time frame.

In the Talendor instance here:

1. You did not have a sufficient force in zone engage and we did;
2. It was outside of a reasonable timeframe.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tanthallas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was dealt with and FE got the loot back; the bard suspended for this was unsuspended. I still have the petition wherein Ephi initially suspended my bard and took the loot only to have Sirken overrule this and unsuspend my bard and return the loot. I can post the results, but I would prefer to have GM permission before doing this.

The reason this was ruled a non-kite was:

1. You did not have a sufficient force in zone to claim that you were ready to engage and we did;
2. It was still, regardless of path, within a perfectly reasonable time frame.

In the Talendor instance here:

1. You did not have a sufficient force in zone engage and we did;
2. It was outside of a reasonable timeframe.

Lol was 15man ready to engage rule active then... NOPE !


Talendor
1. Incorrect
2. Incorrect [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your own boy hitpoint agrees tal is slow and takes more than 4 mins to get to camp.

Messaging fail. Try again!

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prove it