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Old 07-25-2013, 04:56 PM
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Why to not wipe the server in a few easy-to-understand points:
1. My character is not your character to take away from me, and I don't need you trying to inception the devs to take them.
2. Not wiping the server is not an imposition on you. Similar to getting gay married, it doesn't hurt anyone, but some religious asshole/gamer dick who blocks marriage/resets a server because he can't stand to see others getting along well on something he doesn't approve of is an imposition.
3. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.
4. I don't know what your experience on classic was, but mine included playing with a bunch of richer than god players, and trying to work my way up in status.
5. Other people having stuff doesn't mean you can't one day too.
6. Enforcing a raid/guild rotation is easier than restarting a server.
7. Velious will hopefully shut you up
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:08 PM
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6. Enforcing a raid/guild rotation is easier than restarting a server.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:11 PM
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Why to not wipe the server in a few easy-to-understand points:
1. My character is not your character to take away from me, and I don't need you trying to inception the devs to take them.
2. Not wiping the server is not an imposition on you. Similar to getting gay married, it doesn't hurt anyone, but some religious asshole/gamer dick who blocks marriage/resets a server because he can't stand to see others getting along well on something he doesn't approve of is an imposition.
3. Ain't nobody got time for that shit.
4. I don't know what your experience on classic was, but mine included playing with a bunch of richer than god players, and trying to work my way up in status.
5. Other people having stuff doesn't mean you can't one day too.
6. Enforcing a raid/guild rotation is easier than restarting a server.
7. Velious will hopefully shut you up
1: Yeah that is the shitty part :\ It is hard to accept having things taken away from you when you weren't the one who screwed things up.
2: weird but i think the point was it wont affect me if the server doesnt wipe, true enough.
3: Pretty sure if you're playing p99 to begin with you have time for that shit.
4: Mine was starting brand new on day 1 and having real classic progression and not being stuck in kunark for 2 years and counting :P
5: Do you even play on this server? This bullet point reply is deserving of its own thread.
6: raid mobs arent the reason people are wanting a wipe, at all.
7: same shit different continent.

You point out the obvious in the debate for a server wipe... It is clearly logical that there are people who want a fresh start and people who want to continue.

In the end, its clearly been stated there will never be a wipe, which is a shame but I rather enjoy the idea of a wipe and experiencing that part of a servers life. It definitely is one of the best times of a server... Day 1 experiences are a game all its own.

Like I said though, there won't be a wipe or even a new server... Which is a shame... It really is. If we lived in a perfect world, we could cater to both types of players but we live in a shitty world with downsides to everything.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:23 PM
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1: Yeah that is the shitty part :\ It is hard to accept having things taken away from you when you weren't the one who screwed things up.
2: weird but i think the point was it wont affect me if the server doesnt wipe, true enough.
3: Pretty sure if you're playing p99 to begin with you have time for that shit.
4: Mine was starting brand new on day 1 and having real classic progression and not being stuck in kunark for 2 years and counting :P
5: Do you even play on this server? This bullet point reply is deserving of its own thread.
6: raid mobs arent the reason people are wanting a wipe, at all.
7: same shit different continent.

You point out the obvious in the debate for a server wipe... It is clearly logical that there are people who want a fresh start and people who want to continue.

In the end, its clearly been stated there will never be a wipe, which is a shame but I rather enjoy the idea of a wipe and experiencing that part of a servers life. It definitely is one of the best times of a server... Day 1 experiences are a game all its own.

Like I said though, there won't be a wipe or even a new server... Which is a shame... It really is. If we lived in a perfect world, we could cater to both types of players but we live in a shitty world with downsides to everything.
3. I mean as I said earlier, it took me 2 1/2 years to level my toon because I often don't have much time. I have trouble envisioning waiting that long to get back to raiding again.
4. I didn't start on day one and entered into a very wealthy server, and I still came back to play this years later as fun can still be had under these conditions. I guess everyone has different past experiences with the game though. Still doesn't serve as a substantial reason to wipe.
5. If they fixed what is going on with guilds and camps (force rotations/no perma camping) many of the problems would be fixed and the wealth disparity would slowly decrease. This process would be easier than a wipe. That is basically the same as 6.
7. 5 would need to be enforced on velious as well. Otherwise half the server will be stuck with dragon faction, the other half with giant, and half the content will be impractical to try and achieve, like much of the end game content now.

I think the duping can be taken care of, and many of the items and pp confiscated. Only my humble thoughts
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:58 PM
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Wasn't it the journey that people always wanted to relive? The journey you make with 10 fungi-tunics is no different than the one living the journey in poverty, it's the people you play with and the content we all love.
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Old 07-25-2013, 04:59 PM
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Wasn't it the journey that people always wanted to relive? The journey you make with 10 fungi-tunics is no different than the one living the journey in poverty, it's the people you play with and the content we all love.
but so many people want me to restart my journey for so many feckless reasons.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:06 PM
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"Samoht" has posted 43 times in this thread so far today.

This thread was created less than 12 hours ago.

Scary how bonkers some people are
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:08 PM
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:12 PM
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You talk a lot about selfish people Samoht, but you can't seem to see past your own neck-beard far enough to actual read everything being said.
"Samoht" has posted 45 times in this thread so far today, and it's only lunchtime. I'm sure it will be well in the triple digits before dusk.

You don't need me to explain why this kid has a screw loose somewhere.
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Old 07-25-2013, 05:07 PM
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but so many people want me to restart my journey for so many feckless reasons.
How does a new server = you having to restart your journey?

Can someone please help me communicate to this guy that there is a THIRD option on the table here?

1.) Do nothing

2.) Wipe the current server

3.) Open a new, 3rd server for the people who want to start over for the reasons already mentioned in this thread and others


You talk a lot about selfish people Samoht, but you can't seem to see past your own neck-beard far enough to actual read everything being said.
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