My America

[blizzil]

unfettered, corporate abuse is the single greatest threat to our republic.

They simply have to much power. Corporations tried to take over the country in the 1940s and failed, well - in the turn of the new century, they took it over successfully without a shot fired.

[blizzil]

They need zoning permits to open up supercenters (wal-marts) you deny them. You Tax imports! (F'free trade) Its all Wal-mart sells anyways.

Give the smaller mom'pops tax incentives.

It all can be done locally, which it has in some communities

[Overcast]

Yeah, have to agree. Of course, allies - if they need help - as in ask for it, I see no harm there. Of course, 'allies' guard our interests as well.

I'm pretty cynical of government anymore. Seem more like puppets to me - not all of them, of course. Like in anything else there are good and bad in any particular group. I guess this sums up my thoughts:

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial
element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since
the days of Andrew Jackson."
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt
(1882-1945), 32nd US President
November 21, 1933

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Overcast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial
element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since
the days of Andrew Jackson."
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt
(1882-1945), 32nd US President
November 21, 1933

Actually I'd say China does. That's our fault though, we buy too much foreign goods and grant free/favored trade to economic rivals while accepting their loans. Then we have a little problem called the federal reserve, something that truly needs to be abolished, and then to IRS reform which has been given waaaay too much power as of late.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're wrong and it is patently absurd for you to tell me what I did and why.

I only spoke in facts. You were offered a job, which you took. It's very simple. The U.S. Military is an employer.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like my father before me and like his father before him, I served my country before I began my career.

Why do you use the euphamism "served my country?" Why don't you just say "was employed by the [applicable branch of the U.S. Military]?"

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would have made more money working at McDonald's.

That says a lot about the employer.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not whining about anything.

You took a job and now you want to feel special. People don't treat you special because of one of your early career decisions, and you're now venting. That's pretty much whining.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I love my country and I would serve again if called upon.

They need people.. You should re-up your contract.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not a mercenary;

That is not even debatable. You took money for being in a military.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am not a whore.

You are the only one who used that word.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One of us seems to think about everything in terms of dollars; I do not.

How you choose to think of the things you do doesn't alter the fundamental facts. You took money for whatever it is you did in the military.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your argument style is extremely offensive, insulting and unattractive.

As is my wont.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In one short post you have managed to suggest that I am not only a whore but a cheap whore, that I am brainwashed, that I am deluded, and that I am a murderer.

I didn't suggest these things, I stated them; there is a subtle, yet important difference. Also, when I said "how many bullets you've taken while killing brown children," that was a more general indictment against any people who have actually done those things, not necessarily you. I had thought you more educated than to assume my usage was concrete.. ..unless of course.. ..you HAVE done those things.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All this because you do not agree with me that America's problems can be solved and that it is up to us, the American people, to help solve them.

Actually it's because you (and many others) seem to think America has some kind of right to solve the world's problems however the U.S. Government sees fit because we have monetary interests in different parts of the world. I would like to see how far you get if you invested a certain amount of money in some company, and then when they stopped doing what you told them, you go in there with some guns and try to tell them what to do differently.. This is an almost exact analogue to what the US does in foreign nations. This also makes me wonder why you ignored the actual content of my post and instead just focused on defending yourself.

Originally Posted by Alawen Everywhere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suggest you read your own words carefully and reflect on what they say about you.

Backatchya G.I. Joe.

[Hasbinbad]

All I'm asking is that you support your statement..

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All I'm asking is that you support your statement..

What, that more government programs or the large amount of existing programs are really-really bad? We don't need FDR or Reagan, we don't need government control to this existing extent. For every one government job created, two existing private sector jobs are destroyed. Whatever you think of Reagan, his statement was correct. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x59wNGHe6iI

So what, it continues? The elites invest in "green programs/jobs" then boost it through government programs/incentives thus making a fortune. Doesn't matter if they are good or bad, just makes them a whole lot of money whatever the outcome. It's corruption, and rep or dem they need to be run out on a rail.

[blizzil]

Ronald Reagan represents all of the worst elements of the American political experience of the last 50 years. All of them. He was, and always will be, nothing but a steaming hot pile of filthy hyena puke.

Intellectually, Reagan gave chimpy a run for his money. He was vacuous. He was shallow. He was incurious. He was a puppet and a door stop for a group of sick ideologues who really ran the country. He was a shitty actor and foolish tool.

Ideologically, he was a hater and an imperialist and far-right loony-tune. He hated the poor. He hated gays. He hated leftists. He hated communists - and he was pretty sure you were one if you disagreed with him. He hated and he hated and he hated. Just ask his own kids. He hated them and himself and his ex-wife. Ronald Reagan was a twisted unrepentant closed-minded shit-bag hate monger. And that's just for starters.

The foreign policy of Ronald Reagan did more to impoverish and kill the poor and helpless humans of the world than any world leader before or since - with the possible exception of our current chimpking. Reagan just didn't give a shit. He was going to defeat communism (which was already falling of it's own weight) and he didn't care how many children were burned alive or how many people starved to death on the way. Let em die. Reagan was a fucking asshole.

On Reagan's watch the military budget of the U.S. grew to the proportions of a heaping pile of 10,000 week-old dead and bloated Blue Whales. And it stunk just as bad. The practice of rewarding incompetent cronies with gigantic useless contracts for unneeded military hardware was elevated to art form under Reagan. Reagan's legendary megalomania, hubris and abject ignorance led him to believe the tales of any crackpot who managed to slither past the goons who comprised his inner circle. Star-wars missiles, atomic shields, space-age death rays. You name it - that dumb piece of shit would fall for it - and blow billions of your tax dollars on it.

And on the domestic front - holy shit the domestic front. Ronald Reagan was a force for the rampaging evil of anti-human destructiveness. He never met a social program he didn't scorn. He never met an American in need he didn't shit directly upon. His response to the AIDS epidemic is one of the most sickening cold-blooded expressions of pure murderous political evil in the history of the earth. Genghis Khan could only dream of such depravity and indifference to human suffering. There is so much more, but, hell, if you don't already know about this shit, then go read a fucking book or two.

Then there was Iran-Contra - the infamous orgy of unfettered criminality at the heart of the Reagan legacy. Again, look it up. Rogues, liars, crooks, murderers and ignorant heartless scum surrounded Reagan at all times. Alli Babba would've been shamed. But Ronald Reagan was shameless.

Oh, did I mention The War on Drugs and it's ballooning of the prison/criminal industrial complex and the rise of brainless goon-like authoritarianism? Or the destruction of the modern labor movement including the cowardly firing of the Air Traffic Controllers? Or the beginnings of the current trend of packing the Judiciary with corrupt freakish pseudo-fascist stoolies? Or the repugnant rapes of Lebanon and Grenada? Or the dim-witted goofball junk science that came to known as "Reaganomics?" Or grant rigging at the Department of Housing and Urban Development? Or James Watt and the whole-hearted attempt to destroy the earth and all it's inhabitants at the expense of greed mongers and corporate whores? Or the largest white collar theft in the history of planet Earth - the Savings and Loan Bailout? And on and on and on and on.

I really don't have time for this shit. So let me conclude,

Ronald Reagan will forever be remembered as one of the most idiotic, vile, worthless leaders of any any nation in any era. He presently occupies a special place in Hell beside Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. And I promise you, they all think he's an idiot too. Fuck Ronald Reagan. And then fuck him again.


This is some fucked up shit.

Go ahead, defend Reagan’s policies all you want. Back then, his policies yielded great results. However, it laid the groundwork, via building up government debt, that will eventually destroy the country.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What, that more government programs or the large amount of existing programs are really-really bad? We don't need FDR or Reagan, we don't need government control to this existing extent. For every one government job created, two existing private sector jobs are destroyed. Whatever you think of Reagan, his statement was correct.

Obviously "someone" doesn't understand how to support an argument.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obviously "someone" doesn't understand how to support an argument.

Answer what? You are being vague. About Reagans foreign trade?!? ..which was meant to derail my point. You are just doing the same thing as the other guy.