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[Throndor]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I give zero shits if people want to believe dumb stuff on their own time and waste their short lives researching the methods of 2000 year-old societal control. It's when that dumb stuff is shoved in our collective faces constantly and they try to make their religous beliefs the law of the land that pisses me off.

You do you, but keep it to yourself. That's all I'm sayin.

Of course, and on that note i think it important to understand that just because reconstructionists have successfully tamed christianity for 40 or 50 years doesnt provide evidence that it will have the same level of efficacy with every culture it encounters. There are real concerns to address. Europe is in alot of fucking trouble right now. Slow the fuck down.

[Throndor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_blasphemy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Throndor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course, and on that note i think it important to understand that just because reconstructionists have successfully tamed christianity for 40 or 50 years doesnt provide evidence that it will have the same level of efficacy with every culture it encounters. There are real concerns to address. Europe is in alot of fucking trouble right now. Slow the fuck down.

No idea how to got here from the previous conversation. I think maybe you are implying that a reduction in the influence of Christianity is responsible for Europe's current troubles? Is that correct?

[ScaringChildren]

Make Europe Charles Martel Again

[Ahldagor]

There's now a Ukranian Orthodox church. Another schism, lol.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No idea how to got here from the previous conversation. I think maybe you are implying that a reduction in the influence of Christianity is responsible for Europe's current troubles? Is that correct?

Nuance of language is lost on them. They have to prop up their resistance for knowledge's sake motif in order to feel superior while lambasting their own notions creating external strife in their usage of language which is just their internal strife coming out due to being a closeted homosexual. Sad really.

[Throndor]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No idea how to got here from the previous conversation. I think maybe you are implying that a reduction in the influence of Christianity is responsible for Europe's current troubles? Is that correct?

No, im saying that LIKE the reduction in the influence of christianity has increased tolerance for alternative SEXUAL lifestyles, it has also increased tolerance for alternative SPIRITUAL lifestyles.

Europes "current troubles" are a different matter altogether. They are the result of importing a large number of migrants who, themselves, are even more dogmatic and guilty of religious zealotry than the Christians were/are.

Essentially, we are at a point where postmodern cultural reconstructionists are at a pinnacle of confidence in their ability to deconstruct dogmatic religiousness, so theyre welcoming large numbers of muslims into europe with the arrogant assumption that they will win the cultural war in the long term, but it doesnt really look like they are/will to the outside observer due to the increasing prevalence of "no-go" zones and demand for self governorship under sharia law being demanded by the migrants.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*pats the melon*

it's a good word of caution. temperance is a virtue among virtues. I am pretty sure already indicated that molyneux is a sad example of what harris was trying to do or rather one destination one might arrive at by way of reason. the problem for molyneux is that he believes in the primacy of individual liberty. he believes that there is nothing more egregious than infringing upon the liberty of another. In other words that is the fundamental nature of what is wrong.

Of course that's not how he defines his belief system and to his credit, there is a lot more to it and it is very well defined, but that presupposition is what constitutes the engine of his motivations.

Harris actually grounds his belief system in something much less concrete despite his exaltation of the rational mind. His first principal is the same as mine: suffering is bad. He takes another step beyond what I've been able determine and defines what also is good. I don't think he's wrong about what is good, I just think good is much more difficult to define than bad.

One of the places I disagree with Peterson is attributing the social pathologies that the west currently suffers to some malicious conspiracy on behalf of marxists/post-modernists. It's very likely he would have more firsthand experience with the issue in academia than I would and I can understand how that perception might arise, but it's a claim I've no way of validating. Again to be fair, he tries to qualify every such claim by saying it is "certainly true of some," but not all.

I don't generally believe most of the people promoting bad ideas or destructive behavior do so with that as their intent. I believe most genuinely believe in what they are doing whether they are on the right or the left and that is a danger.

Anyway, I listen to Peterson, Harris, Haidt, Pinker, Rogan and Rubin, because they listen to whomever they are speaking with and they adapt their positions when relevant counterpoints are made. They are reasonable. They are also all liberal, like me.

[Patriam1066]

I’d take a catholic girl over a hijabi any day. Can I get an amen?

[Throndor]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nuance of language is lost on them. They have to prop up their resistance for knowledge's sake motif in order to feel superior while lambasting their own notions creating external strife in their usage of language which is just their internal strife coming out due to being a closeted homosexual. Sad really.

We get it, youre gay. Stop trying to put everything and everyone else into the homosexual lens just because that is the lens you see the world through and youre incapable of seeing the sincerity of any angle outside of your own realm of experience. Do your gay thing, bruh. We're discusssing other matters. There are other things going on outside of who or what youre allowing into your mouth and rectum.