Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who is going to complete heal the 7-8k pet?

Beyond that, when charm does break who is going to impressively blast heal the ench and stun the pet?

Shaman and necro heal over times stack. Their healing potential is impressive but notably lacks emergency blast heal potential and … again … who is going to complete heal the massive hp enchanter pet? Or are you going to torpor the pet repeatedly killing its dps … and still barely make more than 17-25% dent (at best unless you have a really good high level pet) in its health per full torpor.

Since you haven't been in the discussion, you missed the part where you can level a pocket cleric to CH a pet if you really want that in-between pulls. You only need a level 39 cleric for CH.

An Enchanter can control their own Charm Breaks just fine, a Cleric isn't necessary. Enchanters can solo quite well with Charmed pets.

In an Enchanter/Shaman/Mage/Necro composition, tactics would change a bit. You would use a lower level slow on a mob so they simply don't do a lot of damage. Then the Necro heals will be just fine for keeping the pet up during combat. CH is best for when you are just killing mobs without slow. Tagar's insects costs 125 mana for a 50% slow. That is a very manageable mana cost for the Shaman, and the Enchanter/Shaman could even alternate to further save on mana.

The Shaman can also just slow tank if the group prefers that. This composition has four pets, and is easily doing 200 DPS just with the four pets.

On harder camps like Fungi King, plenty of trio comps don't have Clerics at all, and they kill King just fine with Torpor as the primary healing. On those kinds of mobs the DPS reduction doesn't matter as much because you will still never get an extra cycle of the mob. Saving 40 seconds on Fungi King would still require you to camp him for for something like 20 hours for you to get another spawn.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since you haven't been in the discussion, you missed the part where you can level a pocket cleric to CH a pet if you really want that in-between pulls. You only need a level 39 cleric for CH.

An Enchanter can control their own Charm Breaks just fine, a Cleric isn't necessary. Enchanters can solo quite well with Charmed pets.

In an Enchanter/Shaman/Mage/Necro composition, tactics would change a bit. You would use a lower level slow on a mob so they simply don't do a lot of damage. Then the Necro heals will be just fine for keeping the pet up during combat. CH is best for when you are just killing mobs without slow. Tagar's insects costs 125 mana for a 50% slow. That is a very manageable mana cost for the Shaman, and the Enchanter/Shaman could even alternate to further save on mana.

godamn you're impossible

literally everything you said there is either flat out wrong or just plain stupid

[Troxx]

Lol I take how many days off this forum and this is still going on?

Lol plsnoban love your new signature

And toxigen your avatar inspired me to watch No Country For Old Men this weekend

[PlsNoBan]

Lol. I don't even have words for this one.

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This is the song that doesn't end
Yes, it goes on and on, my friends
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[Vexenu]

At around page 800, DSM is going to admit that the major utility his Shaman brings is SoWing the group before they zone into Seb.

[Troxx]

So now our 4 man caster group has a pocket cleric to swap in between pulls to heal the pet …

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#movethegoalposts

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So now our 4 man caster group has a pocket cleric to swap in between pulls to heal the pet …

OP never said you couldn't have a pocket cleric. I am not sure why people keep thinking this is not a possible route to take. Between four people it would be trivial to level a cleric to 39. It is pretty common for people to make pocket clerics on P99.

[Troxx]

Lol you keep doing whatever mental gymnastics it takes for you to rationalize putting a shaman in the group.

You have sunk to depths of “low” in the intervening time that I didn’t think possible.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol you keep doing whatever mental gymnastics it takes for you to rationalize putting a shaman in the group.

You have sunk to depths of “low” in the intervening time that I didn’t think possible.

More trolling, and still no valid arguments.

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think since my post is general, then there was never a goalpost to begin with.

OP agrees I am not moving the goalposts, since his post was general. There is nothing that says you can't have a pocket cleric.

Since we seem to be assuming the players are experienced, I see no reason why a pocket cleric is a difficult thing to use.