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Old 03-01-2012, 09:10 PM
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Yes Metallikus, and you'll soon see what I'm talking about if you actually want to take it to the mattresses. This shitshow is just getting rolling, if that's how you want it to be.

VD is afraid to actually compete. They are desperate for an entitlement rotation.

Let's see what you punks actually got - come at me, bruise.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:11 PM
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I love how someone has gone from a suggestion of how to break up TRAK spawns has tried to now say that VP is also going to be part of this same thread... Coldblooded herself has talked about this being about TRAK not VP.

quit trying to steamroll one into another, and there is zero agreement at this point, there is VD trying to say this is the way to do it, and Jeremy saying "thats an interesting argument" that does not conceed to any agreement, its an observation
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:13 PM
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First it was IB, now its VD's fault. Starting to think the real shit bags here are TMO.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:16 PM
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I love how someone has gone from a suggestion of how to break up TRAK spawns has tried to now say that VP is also going to be part of this same thread... Coldblooded herself has talked about this being about TRAK not VP.

quit trying to steamroll one into another, and there is zero agreement at this point, there is VD trying to say this is the way to do it, and Jeremy saying "thats an interesting argument" that does not conceed to any agreement, its an observation
You have terrible verbal skills.

VD has always been of the "my way or the highway mentality." I put a real proposal on the table that will provide some action to the guilds who haven't seen as much as they would like, and all VD can do is try to get a little more out of it for themselves.

TMO will not enter a rotation agreement with VD on Trakanon at this point. Don't waste your time and effort in resistance to this cold(blooded) and hard fact.

You could be spending that effort to get people behind relinquishing 1/4 of all raid targets, for two months or something, to people who aren't in VD or TMO. Why don't you? I think it's a fucking brilliant proposal. If you people even expressed the slightest interest in such a thing, I would similarly being trying to get my people behind it. Cmon, take a little nibble at my juicy worm! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:17 PM
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1) TMO vs VD
2) open (non-TMO and VD) for X number of hours, then FFA
If you want to make sure VD doesn't get more than your version of "fair share of mobs", then beat us to them. Try and make sure VD gets zero. In this scenario, VD only gets as many Traks as they earn by beating you.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:23 PM
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TMO will not enter a rotation agreement with VD on Trakanon at this point.
Then at least rotate with the rest of the server, as one of you said you be more willing to do. Continue to compete with VD but allow for a slot where tmo and vd back off after a pop. Can you even do that?

TMO vs VD
TMO vs VD
OPEN - tmo and vd 6 hours then ffa

Or are you going to say that the rest of the server doesn't deserve a chance either and it isn't just VD you hate? Your argument falls apart at some point.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:23 PM
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Jeremy you prove valid points in your arguments, simultaneously VD also supports some valid points in their arguments though Jeremy you are right, they haven't killed a dragon yet using the normal training rules I'll give you that. But honestly, looking from the outside in, your reps are acting pretty childish. There's no need to troll on server forums.

I'm positively sure you two can reach some sort of mutual agreement, with the right representatives. Your offers are not taken seriously by anyone due to the unneeded troll comments. We're all adults here, can we negotiate like one? The way you two guilds are handling issues are detrimental to the whole server. There is no chivalry or respect left on this server. I also hope that as a guild, your hate towards each other isn't towards everyone in the opposing guild. Both guilds have cool people, so it's unnecessary to make enemies out of people who don't really hate each other.

Before you two even negotiate any kind of rotation or mutual agreement of any sort, you guys need to learn how to RESPECT each other and learn to LIVE with each other. Without that, nothing will be achieved. Xasten posted some great insight in the RnF thread, I suggest both of you guys take the time to read it and soak it in.

Though you two guilds might be fighting for mobs, the server does not revolve around you and both your actions are making GM's hate this server.

Love, not hate.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:26 PM
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who cares about shitty blue server with shitty 150 man guild. focus on red.
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:29 PM
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My statement was actually directed at VD trying to say "this is how its going to be". They then try to use your "observation" to say its TMO agreeing to it.

I have seen VD people do this in other threads several times. Its how they get their wiggle room to try to say "we did this in good faith" when the original proposal was completely aligned in their favor and against the other party.

They will then try to turn this into the TMO hates the server, and everyone should be against them argument.

Dont fall into their trap Jeremy!
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Old 03-01-2012, 09:31 PM
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VD has become the zerg they hated

VD probably cannot control all of their players -- with Bisch accessing other players characters and then those players having to change their passwords b/c they dont want to de-level like Bisch is doing over and over in VP

VD is all surprised TMO doesn't want to deal with them when basically VD cut TMO in the back a few months ago siding with IB

TMO is an organized raiding guild that doesn't control the top end content but is just able to clear that content faster than most

VD is a family guild that is trying to force a rotation so they can go back to casual and stop having to chase every mob with TMO
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