Discussion: Play Nice (Training, Bind Camping)

[juicedsixfo]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're going to get griefed. This is true in all world PvP in mmos. In eq, you are going to get mega griefed. No rule is going to "prevent grief".

100% chance over time true bluebies will quit over something.

I feel like a lot of you never played RZ, or at least not during the first year. The majority of the population that played there chose the server for the option to PvP. Sure there was PKs, and plenty of PvP Happened™, but all this shit now wasn't a huge problem then.

The reason this thread was made is because a small sized portion of the incoming population is made up of nothing but griefers who ruin box to box to box with their FPS play style, who feel like it's their duty to make the game as least fun as possible for everyone else to prove how Red they are.

Of course griefing happens, it's part of a PvP server. But there should be an established rule or guideline to prevent game breaking griefing, mainly training. Training, while hilarious, is lame as fuck.

Originally Posted by Kungen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Word, allow training, bind camping and everything else that keeps carebears away

Look as this backwards fucking logic right here.

[Nirgon]

I think I'm right about this. This won't exactly be RZ. Going to be griefing and bitching like no other up in this one.

[gloinz]

Originally Posted by juicedsixfo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like a lot of you never played RZ, or at least not during the first year. The majority of the population that played there chose the server for the option to PvP. Sure there was PKs, and plenty of PvP Happened™, but all this shit now wasn't a huge problem then.

The reason this thread was made is because a small sized portion of the incoming population is made up of nothing but griefers who ruin box to box to box with their FPS play style, who feel like it's their duty to make the game as least fun as possible for everyone else to prove how Red they are.

Of course griefing happens, it's part of a PvP server. But there should be an established rule or guideline to prevent game breaking griefing, mainly training. Training, while hilarious, is lame as fuck.



Look as this backwards fucking logic right here.

Training is how George Washington and Abraham Lincoln patriotically established america.
without the population having a way to fight a guerrilla war with the ruling nazi regime, the box is doomed to be run by a conglomerate of bluebie jewish overlords.
training allows us little folks to fight a war with anyone.

[eqsales]

Originally Posted by mimixownzall [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And trolls, obviously.

[Muaar]

I hope this server develops an 'anti-pk' faction.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Muaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope this server develops an 'anti-pk' faction.

Grindcore

[Sniperfire]

training rarely really hurts good players....sure if your out solo or something but it never really affected tdt raids

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-VI3V6HpuE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UkNazcWOHs

[Sniperfire]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about rules that are easy to enforce (like bind camping)? The deterrent value of being punished for something like that is enough to make most people not do it. It's not going to burn out the GM staff since virtually no one would be dumb enough to risk doing it.

Yeah training isn't easy to catch, but that's just a reason for needing a high standard of evidence before punishing anyone. If there's not enough evidence, then just don't get involved. And most blatant training should be solved by casting root anyway. I fail to see how this is a big deal. If you don't have a rule against training there will be about a hundred times more of it.

when you enforce bind camping rules you run into problems like what if you kill a guy at his bind and he keeps spawning and attacking you (bind rushing) hoiw many times do you defend yourself before your camping him just let us pvp and fix the quests and other cs issues imo

[Nirgon]

I think the better question is if they are able to say "yes we can enforce this with our allocated staffing" please discuss if the players want it.

That is going to require a lot of consideration of if they want to tolerate it or if pvp/the server/CSR is better off with players enforcing it.

[juicedsixfo]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is going to require a lot of consideration of if they want to tolerate it or if pvp/the server/CSR is better off with players enforcing it.

To be honest the best way to play the game is to use common sense (I know, right). We all know by now what kind of conduct is considered "detrimental to the server, it's population, or staff." In general: don't be idiot, play the game, and you won't get in trouble. If you enjoy being an asshole there's right and wrong ways to do it.

Rogean has already made it clear that he and his staff are running the server their way, with an iron fist, and I'm glad for that.