If you cant wear a mask for your own selfish reasons.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet Christ conquered the grave, and Lives, despite Death.

While God's Grace is extended to all who believe in the Son, the Christ, the Life (Zoe), the Way, the Truth, it is not extended to ALL, as you would insinuate in the above quote; without the Son one cannot have or know the Father, as has already been stated despite your futile attempts at strawmanning.

Where are my straw men? You just came in rko outta nowhere quoting random verses of scripture that said don’t testify jesus = deny father and that jesus didn’t testify himself to a crowd. And you doing this was in response to someone pointing out the motives of bad faith arguments.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I actually was this kid. Still sorta am. Still find your reference valid.

Ive never seen anyone like, show a reason they didnt want to wear a mask other than they were afraid of what people would think of them.

I mean, if you're laying cement on the highway in New Mexico or a roofer in texas sure, but duh, nobody is really asking those people to wear masks while they do that if you stop and think about it for 10 seconds.

It's amazing the lengths people will go to demand nobody look at their penis out of fear of what others will think of it. Sorry I mean wear a mask while they grocery shop.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ive never seen anyone like, show a reason they didnt want to wear a mask other than they were afraid of what people would think of them.

I mean, if you're laying cement on the highway or a roofer sure, but duh, nobody is really asking those people to wear masks while they do that if you stop and think about it for 10 seconds.

It's amazing the lengths people will go to demand nobody look at their penis out of fear of what others will think of it. Sorry I mean wear a mask while they grocery shop.

Should really wear dustmask on worksite with cement or on roofs with possibly fibreglass, asbestos or other dusts tho.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Magnataress made an appeal to "human decency", thereby positing "human decency" as a concept that exists.

John 2:23-25 clearly states otherwise, as does Wisdom of Solomon chapters 1 and 2, so (s)he is essentially making an appeal towards a concept that cannot be substantiated; and given the sordid history of Humanity's "decency" at work, we're going to have to side with the empirical evidence that it does not.

Christ is "The Word" that God, the being that willed the material plane into existence, uses to make meaning of thought which would otherwise just be a formless incohesive blob, and subsequently using "Word"s without Christ essentially leaves whatever you God-less heathens have to say meaningless.

Quoting words of other godless heathens is thereby meaningless as well, by extension.

So, Provide actual proof; not the words of the Word-less, for they have no potency.

Srsly though, he didn’t testify as he saw sin was in them, which as you’ve confirmed was removed as part of the death of the author plot, so not really relevant anymore.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry I keep conflating mask wearing with lockdowns, which I shouldn't. I don't particularly mind mask wearing, I do it myself and it's fine. It makes people feel better and that's fine. Lockdowns I very much disagree with though, and that's the analogy I should have made to speed limits. Seriously, I'm not being bitchy or facetious.

Well maybe lockdowns wouldn't be needed if people would comply with mask wearing and make other smart decisions

[cd288]

Originally Posted by valithteezee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess that's the schism between a country divided. You say do this because "maybe it works" vs "show me it works". 99.5% survival rating for the virus and we should shut down the world and take a vaccine that maybe has a 50% chance of working?? Logical.

So now you're creating a strawman with lockdowns. We weren't even talking about lockdowns/shutting down the world. We're talking about wearing masks.

If I told you "Hey so 100 people are possibly going to die or otherwise have severe health complications. Now, we think there's a chance that if you wear these socks, some or all of them might not die and some of them might not have any health complications. We can't 100% guarantee it, but we think there's a chance it would save a decent amount of those people." Would you wear the socks? Sure why not. It doesn't affect your life negatively in any way. All it does is potentially help some other people.

It's the same thing with the mask. There's literally no reason not to wear it when your indoors in a public place in case it helps. It doesn't negatively affect you at all.

[Jibartik]

Im just glad we can all finally agree that wearing masks is good, especially now that we've defined wearing masks as wearing masks and not subscribing fully to Marxist ideology and shunning jesus. smh.

[Jimjam]

Well, lockdowns are (should be) primarily to stop hospitals being overran. Thats when the deathtoll shoots up. Cutting a life short due to lack of beds/staff means that life loses it’s future productivity and tax contributions, not ideal probs. Government is a stakeholder in keeping people alive to keep sources of tax revenue.

[Jibartik]

If only these people realized that wearing a mask meant less lock downs, and not "we should shut down the economy". We wouldn't have had to have had to shut down the economy.

sm-mf-h

[cd288]

Originally Posted by valithteezee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hear what you are saying, and I wouldn't say that a mask does not have situational effectiveness. If I were to walk around a nursing home with immune compromised residents I'd wear one. In general public I don't think it's necessary to wear one. I think the data from Sweden overwhelmingly points to this.

Except you don't know the various health issues that people might have when you're out in public. There's a multitude of health issues that could cause someone to have serious issues with COVID. The studies also show it's (unsurprisingly) dependent on genetics in terms of whether someone who is otherwise completely healthy might die from COVID (or have severe medical consequences from it)...you can't confirm who has what genes when you're in public either. Be fucking considerate and where a mask...maybe my friends and family who passed away (who, by the way, had no pre-existing health issues and all but one were under 40) would still be alive if it wasn't for selfish people like yourself.