Request for a different policy on (game-changing) specific item camps

[soup]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you missing a point that have already been made.
I don't mind sitting in line waiting for 1 hour, 2,3, 4 - if I would have any certainty that my turn will actually come.
Whats been argued here, is that the group currently holding the camp has no intention of passing it to the people on wait line - they keep bringing in more friends and family and guildies, to hold the camp 24/7 and NOT pass it on to anyone else outside their closed circle.

I understand the straw man argument. No camp gets held 24/7. The CoS camp for example is one of the most popular camps atm and I've walked in to it empty on more than one occasion.

Maybe if you actually went out and tried to get the stuff you want and actually check the camps more than once a week rather than whining on the forums then you could actually get some stuff you want.

[Dr4z3r]

Originally Posted by mwatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

However, I'm not even talking about that. You may recall in one of my earlier posts that I have no problem with a guid establishing themselves and getting what they need for their players before letting it go. What I have a problem with is egregious excess beyond this, i.e., when multiple items are being obtained for individuals (or for guild coffers) beyond what are needed to equip the guild, and/or when a camp is being held down just so the pricing on the loot from it can be maintained at artifically high levels.

I'm going to say this once, and put it in large, bolded words, to try and make it clear:
THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED ON P99's KUNARK.

If you think this has been happening, you are wrong (I promise [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ), and your view of what high-end guilds like to do is severely warped.

[Dr4z3r]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How this conversation got this far before this point was made is simply astounding. I keep forgetting i'm probably not even talking to EQ players here.

Ahem:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...2&postcount=53

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they not just playing the game the way the like it - they also kicking other people of the play ground, like it belongs to them

They are competing against other guilds. You just happen to be collateral damage.

But soup is 100% correct. Go put some effort into getting the camp. Said effort may mean more than waiting in line, however.

[Swordsly]

ITT: BAWWWWWW

[mwatt]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course you weren't.. You just morphed into the 'fun police' 20 years later. Right..

Grats on being the fat chick at the bar who's goal that night is not only to remind anyone within earshot of how bad a time your having, but to also ensure that no one else you came with goes home with anyone that night.

Try as we might, even our combined efforts isn't going to make your wildest dreams come true, so get ready for plan B.

Here's the shocker: most people arguing against your QQ don't have HS keys or NOSs or lockets or whatever, either. We just sucked it up and went ahead and got levels and loots elsewhere, like the sane 99% of the server.

Would i like those items? sure. but its not gonna make or break my gaming experience either way. You could have sit outside Frenzied in Guk for weeks back in classic and never gotten the camp, either. You could have lived in Dag's Cauldron and never even seen Bilge. And lets not even Start on AC or Hadden. It's not like camp-hogging is some wild new fad that just showed up with the launch of Kunark.

In a way i'm sad, because there's simply nothing we're going to be able to do for you in this thread to bring you happiness, outside of that fleeting moment of joy you embrace when your buddy Kika high-fives you. Best of luck to ya.

You are adept at talking smack, but so what. Usage of insult and incendiary commentary on the scale that you are now beginning to employ often indicate that either a poster is out of logical arguments, is extremely immature, or both. You do make some sort of attempt at a logical argument amidst all the crap and name calling, but I am not even going to try and address that until you can discourse like an adult.

[mwatt]

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[mwatt]

Originally Posted by Dr4z3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm going to say this once, and put it in large, bolded words, to try and make it clear:
THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED ON P99's KUNARK.

If you think this has been happening, you are wrong (I promise [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ), and your view of what high-end guilds like to do is severely warped.

Well, I would hope that that were true. However, I doubt it, and I can't see how you can possibly know with such confidence that it is true.

[mwatt]

I'm pretty much through posting on this thread. I've made my points as best I can and it is beginning to belong in R&F the way it's going.

There is another reason. One poster recently stated that we should go and check the camp ourselves. I too had this idea and twice in the past 2 days I have checked it. It was camped yeah, but not by some guild that was locking it down. Once it was a group of of mixed people (no two people with the same guild tag and some with none) and once it was held solo.

It appears that the situation is beginning to resolve itself - either guilds have gotten what they needed, or they've grown tired of doing it, or they've decided to let up a bit and allow natural first come / first served to hold sway.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by mwatt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, I would hope that that were true. However, I doubt it, and I can't see how you can possibly know with such confidence that it is true.

I can with confidence say this is true. I've been in a raiding guild on this server for a long time, and i can say:

THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED ON P99'S KUNARK.

Your tinfoil hat is quite out of fashion.