My Theory About Why Feminism is Currently Irrelevent to Millenials

[maskedmelon]

Just wanna point out that the Jews were slaves too. They went straight from slavery to wandering a desert for 40 years before pulling up their bootstraps and reclaiming their homeland. 600 years later they slew god. They were second class citizens beneath a pagan empire, but outmaneuvered their oppressors to WIN. all it took was a little effort, a fair amount of cunning and a whole lotta DESIRE.

what's your excuse?

#hardworkpays
#nomoreexcuses
#i<3katyperry

[Lhancelot]

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#i<3katyperry

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[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just wanna point out that the Jews were slaves too. They went straight from slavery to wandering a desert for 40 years before pulling up their bootstraps and reclaiming their homeland. 600 years later they slew god. They were second class citizens beneath a pagan empire, but outmaneuvered their oppressors to WIN. all it took was a little effort, a fair amount of cunning and a whole lotta DESIRE.

what's your excuse?

#hardworkpays
#nomoreexcuses
#i<3katyperry

Every people has been a slave at some point.

Some would argue that even in modern societies, the lower echelons of the work force still are. The genius thing is these 'slaves' have been made 'self owned', so now they are responsible for their own health, wellbeing and costs, which saves money for those that benefit from the 'slavelike' labour, and absolves the slaveusers from responsibility for the slaves, making the 'slaves' even more churn and burn / disposable.

Making debt non-inheritable is probably a good idea if you want generations of 'fake' slaves.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just wanna point out that the Jews were slaves too. They went straight from slavery to wandering a desert for 40 years before pulling up their bootstraps and reclaiming their homeland. 600 years later they slew god. They were second class citizens beneath a pagan empire, but outmaneuvered their oppressors to WIN. all it took was a little effort, a fair amount of cunning and a whole lotta DESIRE.

what's your excuse?

#hardworkpays
#nomoreexcuses
#i<3katyperry

The Jews are a very interesting case, because they're different even from other "model minorities" (eg. Japanese and Korean immigrants). What makes the Jews special is, ironically, laws created by Christians. Christians weren't allowed to lend money, and Jews weren't allowed to own land, so these Christian laws all but forced Jews to go into banking, money-lending, and mercantilism. It turns out that being involved with money while everyone around you isn't is kind of good for accumulating money, and when you apply that over hundreds and hundreds of years you get their out-sized influence (which is not to say that a secret cabal of Jews runs the world, just that on average in many countries a Jew will have more money/influence than the average non-Jewish citizen).

Contrast that with people who literally owned nothing less than 200 years ago, had no such laws benefiting them (ironically, although those laws were meant to hurt the Jews, they wound up being helpful) and I think it becomes a lot clearer how one "former slave group" could be vastly more successful than another former slave group (and that's not even accounting for the wealth of other factors that separate Jews from blacks).

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Jews are a very interesting case, because they're different even from other "model minorities" (eg. Japanese and Korean immigrants). What makes the Jews special is, ironically, laws created by Christians. Christians weren't allowed to lend money, and Jews weren't allowed to own land, so these Christian laws all but forced Jews to go into banking, money-lending, and mercantilism. It turns out that being involved with money while everyone around you isn't is kind of good for accumulating money, and when you apply that over hundreds and hundreds of years you get their out-sized influence (which is not to say that a secret cabal of Jews runs the world, just that on average in many countries a Jew will have more money/influence than the average non-Jewish citizen).

Contrast that with people who literally owned nothing less than 200 years ago, had no such laws benefiting them (ironically, although those laws were meant to hurt the Jews, they wound up being helpful) and I think it becomes a lot clearer how one "former slave group" could be vastly more successful than another former slave group (and that's not even accounting for the wealth of other factors that separate Jews from blacks).

This is what I'm talking about ;n; You don't even read the post before responding with unrelated information associated tangentially with one of the words you find most compelling.

You saw "jews," assumed I was making a comparison between contemporary populations and responded with information on that topic. had you read the rest of the post, you would realize it lacked any serious argument. you need to slow down, stop attempting to infer motives and listen to the question. It is evident you know a lot ^^ stop being so eager to simply share what you know and you'll find it will serve you better. or continue to troll ^^

[loramin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just wanna point out that the Jews were slaves too. They went straight from slavery to wandering a desert for 40 years before pulling up their bootstraps and reclaiming their homeland. 600 years later they slew god. They were second class citizens beneath a pagan empire, but outmaneuvered their oppressors to WIN. all it took was a little effort, a fair amount of cunning and a whole lotta DESIRE.

what's your excuse?

#hardworkpays
#nomoreexcuses
#i<3katyperry

Your argument certainly seems to be "the jews were oppressed, but with some cunning, effort and desire they worked their way into not being opressed". You can claim the post "lacked any serious argument", but I think that's what most reasonable people would take away from it.

It also seems to me I read your post, understood it, and responded by explaining the Jewish history was far more complex then you made it out to be, and in fact the reason for their successful escape from oppression had nothing to do with their cunning or will, and everything to do with the historical accident of Christian law:

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Jews are a very interesting case, because they're different even from other "model minorities" (eg. Japanese and Korean immigrants). What makes the Jews special is, ironically, laws created by Christians. Christians weren't allowed to lend money, and Jews weren't allowed to own land, so these Christian laws all but forced Jews to go into banking, money-lending, and mercantilism. It turns out that being involved with money while everyone around you isn't is kind of good for accumulating money, and when you apply that over hundreds and hundreds of years you get their out-sized influence (which is not to say that a secret cabal of Jews runs the world, just that on average in many countries a Jew will have more money/influence than the average non-Jewish citizen).

Contrast that with people who literally owned nothing less than 200 years ago, had no such laws benefiting them (ironically, although those laws were meant to hurt the Jews, they wound up being helpful) and I think it becomes a lot clearer how one "former slave group" could be vastly more successful than another former slave group (and that's not even accounting for the wealth of other factors that separate Jews from blacks).

To which you attack me with:

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is what I'm talking about ;n; You don't even read the post before responding with unrelated information associated tangentially with one of the words you find most compelling.

You saw "jews," assumed I was making a comparison between contemporary populations and responded with information on that topic. had you read the rest of the post, you would realize it lacked any serious argument. you need to slow down, stop attempting to infer motives and listen to the question. It is evident you know a lot ^^ stop being so eager to simply share what you know and you'll find it will serve you better. or continue to troll ^^

So we're having a whole conversation about race and disparities, but because your mentioning of the Jews' involvement in the passion of Christ was flippant ("slew God"), and because you threw a hashtag Katy Perry joke at the end I should just ignore the argument in everything else you wrote, which pretty clearly was that the Jews pulled themselves up by their bootstrap, and what ... respond to the Katy Perry hashtag? And because I didn't I'm a troll?

I'm done doing this with you, you're almost as bad as Mick. The posts above speak for themselves: I'll let everyone else decide whether I'm some troll who just spouts out unrelated information or whether I was trying to have an honest discussion and making arguments with supporting information.

[Jimjam]

Generally immigrants immigrate because they want to work and improve their lives, and don't intend to end up in jail, whereas those bought up in a culture of ennui snapchat "LOL YOLO"?

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Generally immigrants immigrate because they want to work and improve their lives, and don't intend to end up in jail, whereas those bought up in a culture of ennui snapchat "LOL YOLO"?

that is a more socially acceptable way to say what I said tho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

however it doesnt point out the real problem. Black culture is not condusive to growth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that is not racism, i am sad about it, and im not saying all blacks are X or Y but I am saying black culture today is bad.

is it cus we jailed all the dads 30 years ago? Maybe.

Is being self riotous cus you say that is the case going to help? no.

[mickmoranis]

no, what makes them special is the same thing that makes any minority that seems to be successful in society... culturally they dont think the system is taking advantage of them so they just commit crime instead of working hard at being a model member of it.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no, what makes them special is the same thing that makes any minority that seems to be successful in society... culturally they dont think the system is taking advantage of them so they just commit crime instead of working hard at being a model member of it.

The flaw in your thinking is that you don't consider where culture comes from. If you have rich parents who can send you to college, don't you think that might have an effect on your "culture", what occupation you go into, and how successful you are at it? Similarly, if you and most people you know had single moms working multiple minimum wage jobs just to put food on the table, don't you think that might affect your "culture" (and occupation and financial success)?

Nothing comes from a void, our history affects all of us deeply.