The Common Man's NToV Raid Rules Thread

[Kluwen1]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going to disagree with you. Asgard and HK both liked to claim FTE and drag mobs off our pullers, which is when I would take the entire BDA Zerg and drop camp them on top of whichever guild was peeling our mobs. You can't really peel a mob if it's always going to the same place.

Your pullers need to /assist the mob before pulling then because prior to your raid force coming and parking on top of ours, one of your monks tried to pull a wurm off of my druid who got initial aggro and when I realized the mob wasn't following me I used my bladestopper. It's funny how you try to play the good guy though.

[falkun]

Bladestopper aggro doesn't care who had FTE. Clicking a charge and having the mob run after you doesn't prove you have FTE, just that you have more aggro. This is how tons of pulls are executed on P99.

[falkun]

I'm not saying you did or did not have FTE, just that clicking a bladestopper charge proves nothing.

[dafier]

Originally Posted by Kluwen1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can assure you this comment is 100% false.

LOL ...

Thanks I needed that.

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by Rararboker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Falkun, elament was in camp. Door he was behind doesnt block aggro. And he couldn't see through the closed door to know the train was right outside. Had you been there you'd know that.

Maybe they should fix it so the doors work like they did on Live.

And also remove all the non-classic Flurry drakes to make it so more spots in NToV can be used as staging grounds.

[Kluwen1]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bladestopper aggro doesn't care who had FTE. Clicking a charge and having the mob run after you doesn't prove you have FTE, just that you have more aggro. This is how tons of pulls are executed on P99.

Trust me I understand how FTE works. The mob I'm referring to had proximity aggro on me and no I wasn't sitting.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe they should fix it so the doors work like they did on Live.

And also remove all the non-classic Flurry drakes to make it so more spots in NToV can be used as staging grounds.

Looking at the fraps that door does block LOS...the first 2 trash drakes do not aggro and Ikatair only aggros AFTER the door is open. The two trash wyverns then social aggro off of Ikatair. That's how I see it.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looking at the fraps that door does block LOS...the first 2 trash drakes do not aggro and Ikatair only aggros AFTER the door is open. The two trash wyverns then social aggro off of Ikatair. That's how I see it.

I don't think the door blocks aggro, the act of Elament stepping up out of the cubby is what caught the aggro, opening the door wouldn't have mattered if he was out of the cubby, he was going to get caught regardless. The door being opened just gave us an even better vantage point.

[Man0warr]

I don't think he aggroed until Elementae got out of the cubby and up to the door though, regardless of it being open/closed.

We have proven that the door to HoT does nothing (the roamer outside will aggro through the door if you are fighting mobs on the other side) so I just assume that all doors in ToV do nothing.

[falkun]

So its just by server tick or when Elaments jumps out of the cubby that Ikatair does not aggro until he's turned right back towards his room? Either way, Elaments left camp.