Luclin Models Blocked

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by PDX0621 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anything, wouldn't larger/smaller sizes be considered classic? There are places in the game now that are accessible to some races, that others cannot fit without the help of spells/potions.

Afaik the current sizes of classic models are fine, the question is whether the Luclin counterparts have the same dimensions.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Afaik the current sizes of classic models are fine, the question is whether the Luclin counterparts have the same dimensions.

Some dude posted, can't recall which thread, that he can switch to Luclin models to get thru some spots in Neriak with his troll. That specific example doesn't sound particularly game-breaking, but it is a game-mechanical change tied directly to using Luclin models. Somebody else suggested that it is possible to use the "banner jump" trick to get to second floor in City of Mist with an unshrunk fattie by using Luclin models. CoM is an outdoor dungeon, cast Shrink doesn't work there, so that would save use of a potion charge. Again not exactly game-breaking, but still a game-mechanical effect.

Anybody using Luclin models to do something more valuable/useful than those two examples is highly unlikely to post about it here, or so it seems to me.

[Pookieson]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some dude posted, can't recall which thread, that he can switch to Luclin models to get thru some spots in Neriak with his troll. That specific example doesn't sound particularly game-breaking, but it is a game-mechanical change tied directly to using Luclin models. Somebody else suggested that it is possible to use the "banner jump" trick to get to second floor in City of Mist with an unshrunk fattie by using Luclin models. CoM is an outdoor dungeon, cast Shrink doesn't work there, so that would save use of a potion charge. Again not exactly game-breaking, but still a game-mechanical effect.

Anybody using Luclin models to do something more valuable/useful than those two examples is highly unlikely to post about it here, or so it seems to me.

OH SHIT. OH SHIT. Lock the servers, call Nirgon, call Rogean, resuscitate Sirken: people are getting up to the second floor of CoM to grind without blowing a click off of their shrink potion!

Even if this were true(i dont know if it is), BOTH sides of this argument currently have access to Luclin and classic models. How would it be considered unfair then? The resources are available to you, your just to classic-tarded to use them.

Regardless, this example, or gnomes jumping further(omfg nerf) are neither significant to anybody or game-breaking to any extent of the word. A real game breaking bug is fucking gnomes looking through walls, but oh wait its classic so its allowed. You hypocritical ignorant..... ill stop, this isnt RnF.

If luclin models are banned but UI's remain non-classic, and teamspeak is not nerfed, and alt-tabbing to wiki is not nerfed, then i have some serious concerns over the use of logic by those in power.

Dont take the only aesthetically pleasing thing about this game from me.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Pookieson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OH SHIT. OH SHIT. Lock the servers, call Nirgon, call Rogean, resuscitate Sirken: people are getting up to the second floor of CoM to grind without blowing a click off of their shrink potion!

Even if this were true(i dont know if it is), BOTH sides of this argument currently have access to Luclin and classic models. How would it be considered unfair then? The resources are available to you, your just to classic-tarded to use them.

Regardless, this example, or gnomes jumping further(omfg nerf) are neither significant to anybody or game-breaking to any extent of the word. A real game breaking bug is fucking gnomes looking through walls, but oh wait its classic so its allowed. You hypocritical ignorant..... ill stop, this isnt RnF.

If luclin models are banned but UI's remain non-classic, and teamspeak is not nerfed, and alt-tabbing to wiki is not nerfed, then i have some serious concerns over the use of logic by those in power.

Dont take the only aesthetically pleasing thing about this game from me.

I agree with all of the above.
More, I find it ridiculous that originally some player races simply could not enter center areas without help of shrink potions - that's some fucked up game balance.

[paulgiamatti]

Well, there you have it.

Let's punctuate this thread with some Swish not classic gifs.

[paulgiamatti]

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[PDX0621]

As much as I like the Luclin models, if people can and do use them to exploit certain aspects of the game, then I can understand having them removed. However, isn't that almost classic though? As I'd mentioned before, there are areas of the classic game that are accessible to some races, that aren't to others, running the classic models.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by PDX0621 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

isn't that almost classic though?

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[Pookieson]

Who nerfed my Sig? i want answers now.

[BahamutDF]

I don't personally have an issue with the Luclin models. I don't exactly love them, but I don't personally care if others use them. With that said, I feel this argument is pointless in general because:

A) This is a free gaming project that is not run for profit. As such, Nilbog et. al have absolutely no financial or moral imperative to listen to people arguing in favor of continuing to allow the use of Luclin models
B) You choose to play here and there are other servers with other rulesets and objectives
C) If anything, Nilbog et. al are extremely consistent as they've always stated the goal was to make the server as classic as possible on all fronts.

It's not about personal preference. It's not about what's "good" or "bad" for the server. It's not about being fair or unfair. And it's not about some misguided moral argument, either.

It's very simple: Either play with full understanding of what the objectives are (and have always been), or find another server that is more accommodating to your personal preferences.

/thread yet? Sheesh