What attitudes and philosophies do you hate in P1999?

[August]

Originally Posted by Kreylyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The simple answer is buy out your secondary market and there for remove your competition in prices. Resell (since your clearly saying they are selling under your price) for a profit.

They move the items quickly which is WHY they are pricing them under you, You get to regulate the prices by simple supply/demand, AND you make a profit off every sell that way.


Krey-

no, that's not the simple answer, and that's why i hate this attitude (hence the name of this thread). If I did that I'd end up with no way to dump them because the price of the items i'm selling doesn't actually matter. What matters is if there's someone in the tunnel that needs it.

The only way for you to lowball an item to move it quickly is to price it so that someone who flips items would buy it because they know they can sell it for more. People who put prices in their auctions thinking it will make it sell faster are just delusional - as if the 100pp price cut will magically make someone who actually needs the item immediately buy it.

I know these things because I've been living them since 1999. I can't tell you how often I've sat in the tunnel while other people are actively auctioning black sapphire jewelry at a price point, say, 2300pp, with the price in the auction, and i've auctioned mine sans price. Someone sees mine, I tell them 2500pp, and they immediately buy it because it's not an unreasonable price and they JUST looked at /auction. Happens All. The. Time.

[Danth]

I hate the EC tunnel, and the attitudes and general nuisance it encourages. I like any sort of automatic buying/selling (even EQ's badly-designed bazaar) much better. I just want to play the game and the tunnel is just a bunch of annoying hassle. P1999 is what it is though so I take the bad with the good.

Danth

[Danyelle]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin graphic hate is so strong here I'm positive its glow off the monitor causes some people physical pain.

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What fucking loser got these working anyway?

Guy should be banned.

[Kreylyn]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...the price of the items i'm selling doesn't actually matter. What matters is if there's someone in the tunnel that needs it.

Which by your own argument is why you shouldn't care if someone puts the price in or not, it just does not matter.

Unless your wrong, and it does matter, and in that case buying out the competition does work.... /thinking

Hrm...


Krey

[August]

Originally Posted by Kreylyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which by your own argument is why you shouldn't care if someone puts the price in or not, it just does not matter.

Unless your wrong, and it does matter, and in that case buying out the competition does work.... /thinking

Hrm...


Krey

To be clear, it doesn't matter to me - you're absolutely right - i sell around 15-20 black sapphire pieces a week while I afk in the tunnel while I make dinner, etc. I'm lucky to have more than 2-3 BS in stock. I just hate the philosophy of the people who put their price in their auction.

[Kreylyn]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be clear, it doesn't matter to me - you're absolutely right - i sell around 15-20 black sapphire pieces a week while I afk in the tunnel while I make dinner, etc. I'm lucky to have more than 2-3 BS in stock. I just hate the philosophy of the people who put their price in their auction.

Ahhhh... I understand now, sorry for the confusion.

You hate that other people undersell their stuff and loose out on plat which has no direct effect on you at all, it's just the principle of the matter.

So it's a pessimist thing.

You know you could be happy that someone got a good deal and it didn't have to be you that gave it.... as an optimist thing. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



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*grin

Krey

[coki]

People who sign their posts.... Dumbest shit ever

Coki

[Cecily]

People with animated signatures and avatars. Also people with the word peeve in their vocabulary and their pets.

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin graphic hate is so strong here I'm positive its glow off the monitor causes some people physical pain.

Some Luclin model still shots don't make me vomit immediately... but then they move, and my eyes melt. It's not so much the polygons as it is the animations - disgusting.

[Paleman]

Originally Posted by August [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't want to go into it, but no.

Player 1 auctions, WTS HBC 3k
Player 2 auctions, WTS HBC 2.9k
Player 1 auctions, WTS HBC 2.8k!!!

this is what i'm talking about. If you are someone who sells something at a set price constantly putting your auctions in your price is a deathknell to your margins because the secondary market will come in and undercut you publically all the time. Since we track auctions here this results in people wanting the secondary market prices on your goods, which makes it not worthwhile.

Furthermore people like the tunnel because they like to haggle and feel like they win. If you put your actual price for an item in the auction you're just a plain idiot. The ratio of people giving me my asking price versus trying to haggle me down is on the upside of 10:1.

Again, people do different things for different reasons. But, if you think that putting your price in an auction is going to sell something QUICKER, you're just wrong.

I always sell shit faster when I put a price in it. When I dont put a price in I get tells like "how much are you selling it for?" or "how much is that item worth?" or people just look at p99 wiki and undercut that anyhow. Its all just pointless conversation that isnt even related to haggling, and it turns me into a person doing a fucking Q&A over a video game item, no thank you.

so I dont waste my time or others by putting the price I am trying to get for the item I am selling.

haggling is a negotiation, and from the sellers point of view its better to start that negotiation by stating your terms as clear as possible and as soon as possible.

also dont worry too much about any in game economy, its ultimately irrelevant. The only thing going for eqs economy is that it is player driven. Can you think of any in game economy that was stable? I cant because in the end this shit isnt real and you can always pick the option of not really caring.

also I for sure sell things faster when I dictate the price I am looking for. Some people that play mmos especially are so damn passive aggressive they need some sort of indication of what you are looking for in terms of price, so doing that always gets me more offers than not saying my price.