vp class c trap is set

[Jfertal]

Im stil prettu swelled up!

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We get it, you think you're a clever argumentsmith so you're dropping this incredible reductio ad absurdem bomb on us to make us look like the bad guys, jesus christ you've said it four times in the last fucking hour

You're definitely not the bad guys but you're also not living up to your reputation.

Would you like to present a rebuttal or just complain about being teased?

[Jfertal]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're definitely not the bad guys but you're also not living up to your reputation.

Would you like to present a rebuttal or just complain about being teased?

pretty sure i just revbuttled anything you ever questioned, no big deal

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're definitely not the bad guys but you're also not living up to your reputation.

Would you like to present a rebuttal or just complain about being teased?

BDA is new Class C Overlord. Fuck class R, they gotta earn their VP loot. That's what you're going for?

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're definitely not the bad guys but you're also not living up to your reputation.

Would you like to present a rebuttal or just complain about being teased?

Sure.


Your argument, at its essence, is this: BDA pushed for a rotation on the server, claiming that the monopolization of content by one guilds that represented a small minority of the server (important distinction: "monopolization" in this context referring not only to, in a sense, "grabbing" all of the content, but the active, cutthroat, and unrelenting pursuit of actually blocking everyone else from it at all times). For this reason, anytime BDA experiences new content, you argue, it is an act of hypocrisy that we do not go out of our way to bring everyone else on the server with us into VP. Because that's what the rotation was, was our way of bringing everyone on the server with us to the end-game content, right?

Here's as brief an explanation as I can give as to why this argument is invalid, unsound, and just ridiculous.

It's not the same thing. The rotation enables any individual guild that is capable, by its own merits, the opportunity to raid end-game content. We're not carrying guilds that can't do end-game content through it with the rotation. As a matter of fact, if you paid any attention at all over the last, eh, six months or so, that's been a huge point of contention in the raid scene- guilds have gotten in trouble for helping each other with content that either guild by itself could not handle. There are strict rules in place preventing one guild from just carrying another through content the former can't take. But you already know that, don't you, after your guild's attempts to team up with small class R guilds that were mad at us for not carrying them enough were repeatedly kaiboshed by the GMs for being clear-cut instances of Class C alts pretending to be Class R mains just to slow the rotation down and piss all over the rest of the server that was cooperating with each other. What was the name of that guild, I can't even remember it, they made a huge post on their website about how Chest was secretly conspiring to keep them out of the class R rotation because their turn for Vox came up and they weren't good enough or something? Anyway, hey, that happened. So, fundamentally, the basis of your argument is bullshit because the rotation isn't about carrying people who can't do content through that content, it's about anyone who is capable of doing the content getting a chance to. The very post you quoted is about exactly that- why Taken, considered our rivals/competition/enemies/whatever you want to call it in the Class R rotation, the "other" big raiding class R guild, is not themselves trying to get in on this. The very quote you gave is an argument against your REALLY CLEVER TRAP.


So here you are, trying to turn this situation into ammo to use against us- you want the other class R guilds to go, "hey, he's right! BDA really are a bunch of scumbags! They're just as bad as TMO! They blew all this hot air up our asses about the inclusiveness of the rotation, but here they are excluding us!" But that's bullshit. They're not idiots. They're not going to buy into this empty fucking rhetoric. They know we're not in VP because we're being "rewarded" or that we're being "given" VP- we're in VP because there is a rule that says, if you kill a class C mob, you go into class C, and we accidentally killed a class C mob because we didn't know we needed to wait 30 more seconds to engage it or else it would still be class C. The fact that TMO and IB are suspended right now is absolutely separate from our own situation and has nothing to do with us. Coincidences do happen, sorry, and you're better off trying to play this off as some wild conspiracy than you are going with this "BDA are hypocrites" line of bullshit that you're trying to bury us under.

[Pokesan]

Right, so BDA "deserves" the content while the rest of class R does not. Gotcha.

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[Kekephee]

You can do better than that

[Kekephee]

Actually no you probably can't, and I really don't want to see you try because it's very depressing to me to imagine you sitting in the dark with your tongue sticking out of your mouth hard at work to formulate these amazing little brain games you play

[Pokesan]

You've done an excellent job of arguing with a drunk person Kekephee and I salute you.

I just want you to be the hero that class R deserves.

Please do not disappoint me.

[Gurbuuk]

Thanks GML, now some TMO are camping my spots in Lguk !