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[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Snizatcher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh come on.. My use of the definition was comical. Yours is just defensive and not nearly as giggle inducing.

I'm obviously kidding. But, the fact that it said "a professional boxer" was too perfect to pass up.

I hold that my definition was chuckle inducing which is far superior to giggling or even snickering.

[quido]

Originally Posted by Snizatcher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh come on.. My use of the definition was comical. Yours is just defensive and not nearly as giggle inducing.

I'm obviously kidding. But, the fact that it said "a professional boxer" was too perfect to pass up.

I have no doubt BDA players would laugh at something so stupid. Everyone else is familiar with the concept of some words having more than a single precise definition.

[Oleris]

Derubael/Sirken, what will be the outcome from the actions yesterday? Should the server expect no raid mobs for a while? Should class C expect no VP pops or suspended? Should the entire server be ready for no raid mobs in velious?

[Dillian]

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[Rais]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I will say one thing though. The fact that Deru and Sirken conduct most of their business on Skype should really worry you about the fair application of rules on the server.

I'll agree with this one, but also laugh since Sirkedawg and Derupal always bitched about you crying to them all the time on skype.I think the other mass offended at this was Sloan. Nothing CSR wise should be handled over skype and only through petitions unless the two parties involved decide to talk to the GM involved together on skype. Has always been my stance.

Good call Alarti.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll agree with this one, but also laugh since Sirkedawg and Derupal always bitched about you crying to them all the time on skype.I think the other mass offended at this was Sloan. Nothing CSR wise should be handled over skype and only through petitions unless the two parties involved decide to talk to the GM involved together on skype. Has always been my stance.

Good call Alarti.

Sirken use to bitch to me about Sloan or getsome, hokushin about they cried to them on skype all the time. I'm sure he bitches about Unbrella now. Main point to take away is Sirk wants all the power and none of the responsibility. Its the opposite of what is needed.

Sirk and Deru are pretty inept as GM's nowadays. Sirk stopped caring a long time ago. Derubael has always been kinda clueless.
Used to be you needed a burden of proof to show someone was guilty now you need to prove your innocence. Its easier I'm sure.

Course I've known Sirken since he was playing his little gnome necro. Its kinda shocking to see the severe personality shift that happened to him since he started GMing.

He started out as a PvP head who was even more competitive than we would expect. "Don't petition me if you get trained at KC entrance it's a zone out, its your own fault for sitting there" and current Sirken is a full 180 from that.

[Tanthallas]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll agree with this one, but also laugh since Sirkedawg and Derupal always bitched about you crying to them all the time on skype.I think the other mass offended at this was Sloan. Nothing CSR wise should be handled over skype and only through petitions unless the two parties involved decide to talk to the GM involved together on skype. Has always been my stance.

Good call Alarti.

I only skyped when I was told to skype. Are you upset you were never invited to our super secret skype meetings?

[ssfarmer]

/sigh

what i dont understand is that IB trains TMO @ naggy and causes wipe..... which causes tmo's aggro to transfer and pull naggy out of lair.... tmo conceded because this is against the rules on our part - imo issue solved ib gets an uncontested naggy

again at trak tmo engages too soon, tmo makes no other attempt other than CRing (even CR and buffed some taken who died when the repop happened) and was almost compeltey full buffed and more than ready to engage a 2nd time before ib goes in..... yet tmo stays back conceding mob (was an argument about this i will say, but no attempt to pull was made) again, ib gets uncontested trakanon while TMO CRs itself + taken people- issue should be resolved

IB has a history of having mobs conceded to them and then bitching to staff about the issue getting 2x the rewards, yet when they are in the wrong they wont do the same thing.... we all thought that arguments were supposed to be worked out between guilds first and tmo is willing but ib wont, i mean just look at them training hoshkar on tmo causing a wipe and then going and killing the mob themselves this past week + dropping hoshkar into our pull (as lazie has shown they used this as a defense to cause a suspension against tmo) yet think its perfectly fine.

To derubael's post:

how bout that rule being posted? why are none of the rulings EVER posted..... are we supposed to just remember every single ruling ever handed down? and why has this never been enforced? its been done on both sides plenty of times since you become a guide and NO punishment has EVER come from it.... i mean i have plenty of fraps of IB doing while i was raiding with them, and its happened a few times since i've been with tmo.... this has NEVER resulted in a punishment.

Can we please at least be consistent with rulings? instead of one week it be one thing and the next week it be something else? this has been an issue for as long as i've raided..... just clearly define situations and make a FAQ and put in raid discussion as a sticky then at least its posted (and this can be updated with each new ruling if something isnt clear about previous rulings) this might have an upfront time cost (minimal considering the time you already spend on things) and should save you plenty in the long run.... and it should stop most arguments

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by ssfarmer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To derubael's post:

how bout that rule being posted? why are none of the rulings EVER posted..... are we supposed to just remember every single ruling ever handed down? and why has this never been enforced? its been done on both sides plenty of times since you become a guide and NO punishment has EVER come from it.... i mean i have plenty of fraps of IB doing while i was raiding with them, and its happened a few times since i've been with tmo.... this has NEVER resulted in a punishment.

What would the US be if we never wrote down our amendments.

[Troubled]

Originally Posted by ssfarmer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/sigh

what i dont understand is that IB trains TMO @ naggy and causes wipe..... which causes tmo's aggro to transfer and pull naggy out of lair.... tmo conceded because this is against the rules on our part - imo issue solved ib gets an uncontested naggy

again at trak tmo engages too soon, tmo makes no other attempt other than CRing (even CR and buffed some taken who died when the repop happened) and was almost compeltey full buffed and more than ready to engage a 2nd time before ib goes in..... yet tmo stays back conceding mob (was an argument about this i will say, but no attempt to pull was made) again, ib gets uncontested trakanon while TMO CRs itself + taken people- issue should be resolved

IB has a history of having mobs conceded to them and then bitching to staff about the issue getting 2x the rewards, yet when they are in the wrong they wont do the same thing.... we all thought that arguments were supposed to be worked out between guilds first and tmo is willing but ib wont, i mean just look at them training hoshkar on tmo causing a wipe and then going and killing the mob themselves this past week + dropping hoshkar into our pull (as lazie has shown they used this as a defense to cause a suspension against tmo) yet think its perfectly fine.

To derubael's post:

how bout that rule being posted? why are none of the rulings EVER posted..... are we supposed to just remember every single ruling ever handed down? and why has this never been enforced? its been done on both sides plenty of times since you become a guide and NO punishment has EVER come from it.... i mean i have plenty of fraps of IB doing while i was raiding with them, and its happened a few times since i've been with tmo.... this has NEVER resulted in a punishment.

Can we please at least be consistent with rulings? instead of one week it be one thing and the next week it be something else? this has been an issue for as long as i've raided..... just clearly define situations and make a FAQ and put in raid discussion as a sticky then at least its posted (and this can be updated with each new ruling if something isnt clear about previous rulings) this might have an upfront time cost (minimal considering the time you already spend on things) and should save you plenty in the long run.... and it should stop most arguments

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