Stop the Socking

[maestrom]

Non-raider here just watching the drama.

What is CoTH ducking?

[thieros]

Originally Posted by maestrom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Non-raider here just watching the drama.

What is CoTH ducking?

when a raid mob is in window, use a mage to face track the mob while other guildies (probably a warrior or bard) are in your group sitting an acceptable sockline (probably autorunning into the corner so you can afk fte). perpetually cast CoTH and duck it at the last second for the entirety of the window. recast and repeat. When the mob spawns, dont duck coth. instead it lands and boom you have an FTE non tracker warrior able to stall/pull within seconds (if that) of the mob spawning

[Clark]

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[maestrom]

That's what I imagined. Intense.

[Man0warr]

BDA has mage mules for the normal stuff, but no one is going to force someone in our guild to coth duck for hours.

[Clark]

Ya. I mean personally I feel like there should be zero rules/all ffa with big variance. Then if you really want one target bad you can go sock it. The only thing that really ever got a little out of control was VS.

Almost feel worse for the red players having to put up with bull shit PNP. Was glad to see Sirkens recent post for them about cutting back on PNP, and if you afk you get what comes to you.

Rule99 needs to become P99 again.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then if you really want one target bad you can go sock it. .

this surprises no one coming from you

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[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya. I mean personally I feel like there should be zero rules/all ffa with big variance. Then if you really want one target bad you can go sock it. The only thing that really ever got a little out of control was VS.

Almost feel worse for the red players having to put up with bull shit PNP. Was glad to see Sirkens recent post for them about cutting back on PNP, and if you afk you get what comes to you.

Rule99 needs to become P99 again.

Of course you would feel this way. You are one of the extremely small fraction on this server that can attend and sock at any hour for any duration.

Complete hands off FFA no rules is what got us to where we are. Which is a vast improvement but it can be improved further. And it needs to be as our socking is starting to creep back towards what it was. That needs to be removed.

[Clark]

Kind of confused why Taken never sits back and analyzes their own actions. You guys are one of the reasons things get taken to extreme limits as far as socking goes. Pretty sure that Inny being socked months straight by you guys was a big reason for rule changes. Preposterous.

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[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kind of confused why Taken never sits back and analyzes their own actions. You guys are one of the reasons things get taken to extreme limits as far as socking goes. Pretty sure that Inny being socked months straight by you guys was a big reason for rule changes. Preposterous.

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And I'm pretty sure we would have no qualms with the changes I listed out that would completely remove socking.

1. C/R rotation with full FFA respawn -- no socking, CotH ducking or C/R petition wars.
2. No respawn windows just repop windows. Sim repops randomly occur as usual. -- removes all need to sock and track. The repops will zone wide alert you that everything respawned. C/R/FFA rotation kept in place.
3. 2 in zone when tracking mob, trackers can't FTE. No more socking but doesn't prevent CotHing. Can argue for no CotHing if you wish then it becomes a rule addition of legit starting points, speed buffs etc. But the crux of this is no socking with formed groups in zone or on the other side of zone lines... Camp your forces out.

Taken socked one mob for a few weeks. You've been socking Trakanon for years, along with hoarding every other mob as well with jav spam.