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Old 08-19-2014, 06:24 PM
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Old 08-19-2014, 06:42 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but is that article trying to say that not tolerating intolerance makes one a hypocrite?
We live in a democracy. Simply disagreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to call them a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, etc. It doesn't solve anything, poisons the discourse, and polarizes the electorate.

That guy at Mozilla got attacked for hating gays since he donated to a campaign against gay marriage. If a man disagrees with another group on the definition of marriage, he should lose his job? That's very near fascism. Rationalize it however you like, it's still a form of bigotry... Rabble-rousing people against those you disagree with proves how little merit an argument has. Win a debate through logic, not by force. Otherwise just join ISIS
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Old 08-19-2014, 06:45 PM
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See, I told you people you were missing the point; you didn't believe me. Go John Oliver, he gets it.
If your house or business was being burned down you might support that martial law.
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Old 08-19-2014, 06:45 PM
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We live in a democracy. Simply disagreeing with someone doesn't give you the right to call them a racist, a bigot, a homophobe, etc. It doesn't solve anything, poisons the discourse, and polarizes the electorate.

That guy at Mozilla got attacked for hating gays since he donated to a campaign against gay marriage. If a man disagrees with another group on the definition of marriage, he should lose his job? That's very near fascism.
this shit is so stupid, conservatives support chick-fil a for being anti gay, liberals boycott becuse someone is anti gay. Whats the diff? Its fucking AMERICA straight up. Facisim, you fucking crazy?! Lol

Iits insane that anyone would think you could insult anyone by calling them liberal.

I hope none a yall go to church ya fucking daemons.
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Old 08-19-2014, 06:49 PM
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:08 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but is that article trying to say that not tolerating intolerance makes one a hypocrite?
The problem is perspective. Tolerance and intolerance are entirely based on who is speaking at the time. Someone sharing their religion would be considered intolerance by some and attacking someone's religious beliefs would be considered intolerance by others. We don't really have any solid rulings as to what is intolerance and what isn't and even if we did, what room is there for new or unrepresented views to come into the picture? How does everyone get what they want? They can't.

Real tolerance is understanding that you have to share a world with these people, regardless of whether you like them or not. You have to tolerate them. The alternative is conflict; often large scale, bloody conflict.

Make lemonade, imo. It's healthier for everyone involved.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:09 PM
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this shit is so stupid, conservatives support chick-fil a for being anti gay, liberals boycott becuse someone is anti gay. Whats the diff? Its fucking AMERICA straight up. Facisim, you fucking crazy?! Lol

Iits insane that anyone would think you could insult anyone by calling them liberal.

I hope none a yall go to church ya fucking daemons.
You're supposed to have free speech. Why do you need to boycott people that you disagree with politically? If Chic-fil-a were murdering people, I'd understand that. I get boycotting Russia, etc. But to try to harm people economically because they disagree with you? It's ridiculous and pathetic. I am neither a democrat nor a republican, but I purchase goods and services from people that are all the time...
Your life must be difficult to be so very opinionated...

You're not going to like the Orwellian society you're creating, where no one disagrees with the prevailing wisdom because ass holes organize campaigns against ANYONE that dares to have a contrary opinion. The ability to freely discuss and disagree is a critical feature of a successful democracy, how else is progress made?
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:09 PM
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The problem is perspective. Tolerance and intolerance are entirely based on who is speaking at the time. Someone sharing their religion would be considered intolerance by some and attacking someone's religious beliefs would be considered intolerance by others. We don't really have any solid rulings as to what is intolerance and what isn't and even if we did, what room is there for new or unrepresented views to come into the picture? How does everyone get what they want? They can't.

Real tolerance is understanding that you have to share a world with these people, regardless of whether you like them or not. You have to tolerate them. The alternative is conflict; often large scale, bloody conflict.

Make lemonade, imo. It's healthier for everyone involved.
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:12 PM
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So we have to tolerate Nazi's is what your saying... Yea, real brilliant people hate liberals...
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Old 08-19-2014, 07:13 PM
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Exactly
Just remember that sword cuts both ways. Noone walks away from a legitimate compromise happy.
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